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I Guess Since They Are Shooting Tires and Not People It’s Not a Coup

1:35 pm By Maegan la Mamita Mala · honduras · Comments Off

4 Jul 2009

There is much talk about what makes a coup and what doesn’t and if said definitions apply to Honduras.

Check out this video from CNN that shows the Honduran military shooting the tires of buses going the capital to protests in support of ousted President Zelaya, or perhaps even to greet him, as he could arrive as early as tomorrow.

Via / Honduras Frente al Golpe de Estado

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Honduras Pulls Out of the OAS

12:39 pm By Maegan la Mamita Mala · honduras · Comments Off

4 Jul 2009

hondurasAfter a visit from the Organization of American States head, Chileno José Miguel Insulza, where he asked that Prseident Zelaya be reinstated or else face expulsion, Interim President Roberto Micheletti decided that he would pull Honduras out of the OAS first.

Happy Freedom Day!

Via / Two Weeks Notice, Inka Kola News, Narco News

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This report from Al-Jazeera is interesting to see if only for the updates on what is going on with Zelaya’s cabinet right now–something I hadn’t even considered. Because when you oust the president everybody else stays, right? ((naive naive girl))

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s-demint-largeAnd just to add one more layer to the confusion: Sen. Jim DeMint, a Republican senator from South Carolina, has come out in support of the coup. And strangely enough, his reasoning sounds very similar to that of Honduran bloggers.

via Huffington Post:

Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) has come out in support of the military coup in Honduras, chastising President Obama in a statement for what he calls “a slap in the face to the people” of that country.

From his statement:

“The people of Honduras have struggled too long to have their hard-won democracy stolen from them by a Chavez-style dictator. The Honduran Congress, the Honduran Supreme Court, and the Honduran military have acted in accordance to the Honduran constitution and the rule of law. [...]

“I am hopeful that as President Obama grows in office, he will eventually turn away from despots like Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Castro, and Zelaya, and give the United States’ full-throated support to the people of any country who are fighting for the same values we cherish and defend in America. The people fighting for freedom around the world, in Iran and Honduras, should never have to wonder which side America will choose between freedom and tyranny.

“President Obama’s call for the reinstatement of Zelaya is a slap in the face to the people of Honduras. And the resolution written by the Organization of American States tramples over the hopes and dreams of a free and democratic people.

“The rule of law is working in Honduras. President Obama should not undermine the democratic institutions that guarantee freedom by forcing an illegitimate President back into power.

The big question now appears to be, who gets listened to in this case? Latino congressional members say boo! on coup. White conservative members say yay! Honduras appears to be saying yay as well, but the entire rest of world leaders say boo. Nobody likes the evil socialists, so capitalists say boo, but social justice people think that socialism is the lesser of two evils–so they say yay.

Everybody is screaming “rule of law”–but in Latin American nobody really has any clue what that means, and Indigenous peoples wish we would all shut up and get the hell out.

What is to be done?

Yes, Latin@’s you have stumped my ass again.

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We’ve been talking a lot here at VL about the many strange “truths” of the Honduran coup–and then I came across this post by Latina Lista. It is a blog post written by a blogger in Honduras, and she presents a completely different version of what the coup means to Hondurans. It makes things much clearer to me.

An excerpt:

I have not seen any US media outlet show coverage of the tens of thousands who gathered yesterday in support of the new government. A friend commented on the remarkably one-sided coverage of the crisis, “A few hundred rioters throwing rocks at soldiers and the police and water cannon makes much better news than thousands of supporters holding their hands above their hearts with tears streaming down their face singing the national anthem.”

Honduras is a small and underdeveloped country. It can ill afford the bad reputation that the world has for its leaders. However, I hope and pray that world would consider carefully the events surrounding the removal of Mr. Zelaya.

I am reminded of the words of the prophet Amos:

Do you know what I want?

I want justice–oceans of it.
I want fairness–rivers of it.
That’s what I want. That’s all I want. Amos 5:24

As rivers and oceans of people are marching across the land of Honduras, one can only hope and pray that the world will take notice of a small country that seeks to live in peace, freedom and development.

Read the whole thing here.

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soagradI think that the following is written by more conservative members of the NLC–although I may be (and probably am) wrong. Honestly, I don’t keep up too much on individual goings on of the members of Congress.

But either way, these people presented an opinion with concrete solutions–and again, I am finding myself feeling conflicted.

National Latino Congreso

June 29, 2009

Statement of the Conveners of the National Latino Congreso (NLC) on the Illegal Military Coup in Honduras,

We, the undersigned Conveners of the National Latino Congreso, commend President Barack Obama for his timely condemnation of the illegal and unconstitutional removal of the democratically elected President of the Republic of Honduras Manuel Zelaya on June 27, 2009.

We urge President Obama to instruct the State Department to officially declare that the Honduran military and its allies have staged a coup against the constitutionally elected President of Honduras (Manuel Zelaya).

Such a declaration will automatically trigger a suspension of US economic aid to the Honduran government.

We urge President Obama, and the Congressional leadership (Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, US Senate Majority Leader and U.S. Representative Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the US House of Representatives) to further undertake the following actions:

1) Suspend all US military aid to Honduras (including closing the US
military base);
2) Suspend Honduras from CAFTA membership (Central America Free Trade Agreement); and

3) Suspend Congressional funding (from the National Endowment for
Democracy*) for all Honduran civic groups that supported the coup.

We further call on the Congressional Hispanic Caucus to join with us in
opposing the military coup. Latin America has made great progress in rooting out the culture of military coups in the last 10-15 years and as US Latinos we cannot stand by silent in the face of such a brutal and illegal attempt to contravene our Hemisphere’s march towards more just and democratic societies.

Signed,

Antonio Gonzalez, President, William C. Velasquez Institute (WCVI)

Oscar Chacon, Executive Director, National Alliance of Latin American and Caribbean Communities (NALACC)

Nativo V. Lopez, National President, Mexican American Political Association
(MAPA)

Ok, so if Zelaya really was democratically elected (and especially in Latin America, we all know how contested the words “democratically elected” really are), then yeah, this coup is total bullshit.

But then–economic sanctions. Ugh. I have yet to see a case where economic sanctions have done nothing more than through a country into complete chaos while simultaneously starving and disempowering the most marginalized people in that country.

Oh, and suspending a country from one of the nafta/cafta/peruvian/globalization treaties is a punishment? Really?

Then there’s this part:

Honduran civic groups that supported the coup

And I can’t help but think, can somebody define “civic” for me? As in, what is it code word for? Indigenous peoples that are working to reclaim their own lands? Rich formerly Spaniard elites that are pissed that *they* don’t own the lands? Drug lords?

And then finally, there’s this:

Latin America has made great progress in rooting out the culture of military coups in the last 10-15 years

And we have to again go back to the question of *who* is funding and coordinating the vast majority of military coups in Latin America? It’s surely not people from within Latin America–although, of course, there are vast groups of people that *benefit* from those military interventions/coups. No, the vast majority of military coups in Latin American can be traced back to the U.S. So, why do we not want this coup to happen, then? Because now all of a sudden we’re leaders in social justice and human rights?

It’s all very confusing.

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aleqm5j-ehjhewkth0fxha2om7xpoznxpqThis story is from a few days ago, but given the current situation in Honduras, I thought it was relevant.

U.S. President Obama met with Chilean President Michelle Bachelet and was asked about the U.S.’s role in the 1973 coup that ousted democratically elected Salvador Allende and led to 17 years of military dictatorship.

Obama was asked about CIA involvement in Latin America such as the coup that brought Augusto Pinochet into power. Despite admitting that errors have been made in the past, Obama emphasized the need to move ahead in U.S.-Latin America relations:

“I’m interested in going forward, not looking backward,” said Obama, who has pledged to reinvigorate ties with Latin America, after what his advisors believe was neglect during the previous Bush administration.

“I think that the United States has been an enormous force for good in the world. I think there have been times where we’ve made mistakes,” Obama said in the Oval Office.

“But I think that what is important is looking at what our policies are today, and what my administration intends to do in cooperating with the region.

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Zelaya : I’ll Be Back

6:32 am By Maegan la Mamita Mala · honduras|Politics · 1 Comment

1 Jul 2009

videolthumb33f94a679b19df6d0f00e21f8096b24fOusted Honduran president Manuel Zelaya has vowed to return to his country and to his position on Thursday. Pero he won’t be alone. Zelaya plans to bring an entourage with him including, according to news sources, Argentine President Cristina Kirchner, and the U.N. General Assembly and OAS chiefs.

The interim president of Honduras, Roberto Micheletti, said that Zelaya would be arrested upon his return.

The United Nations , OAS, and US President Obama have thrown their weight behind Zelaya, but since people have such short memories I would like to point out a few things:

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soagradMaegan already posted about the coup in Honduras earlier–but I saw this article in the New York Times and felt it did a really good job of examining what the situation is.

from the New York Times:

Leaders across the hemisphere, however, denounced the coup, which American officials on Sunday said they had been working for several days to avert.

President Obama said he was deeply concerned and in a statement called on Honduran officials “to respect democratic norms, the rule of law and the tenets of the Inter-American Democratic charter.

“Any existing tensions and disputes must be resolved peacefully through dialogue free from any outside interference,” he said. His quick condemnation offered a sharp contrast with the actions of the Bush administration, which in 2002 offered a rapid, tacit endorsement of a short-lived coup against Mr. Chávez.

The Organization of American States issued a statement calling for Mr. Zelaya’s return and said it would not recognize any other government. The organization’s secretary general, José Miguel Insulza, called an emergency meeting of the group to weigh further actions.

The arrest of Mr. Zelaya was the culmination of a battle that had been simmering for weeks over a referendum, which was to have taken place Sunday, that he hoped would lead to a revision of the Constitution. Critics said it was part of an illegal attempt by Mr. Zelaya to defy the Constitution’s limit of a single four-year term for the president.

I’m already nervous with the role the U.S. has in this. As mamita pointed out, Venezuela and the U.S. seem to be agreeing about the over wrongness of the coup–which is scary enough. But the U.S. has a long history of encouraging chaos in Latin America–so why on earth does the U.S. seem to think the coup is wrong? Usually, the U.S. *supports* coups!

It makes me think that Zelaya must be a murdering genocidal scum (which is why the U.S. is supporting him?)–but Venezuela is agreeing with the U.S.–and if Hugo Chavez is anything (and you know he is and more), he has never been scared to call the U.S. out. The U.S. supporting a genocidal scum would be the thing that he would love to use against the U.S., normally. What the hell is going on here?

As somebody who is fully aware of how politics in Latin America usually involves a good 25 different political groups and a 500 year history of violent interactions between those 25 political organizations–all I can say right now is that I am keeping my eyes open, my thoughts very critical, and I am attempting to ask the right questions. Like where at the indigenous peoples in this coup? What is their position and what role do they have if any?

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Coup in Honduras

6:54 am By Maegan la Mamita Mala · honduras|Politics · 1 Comment

29 Jun 2009

soagradYesterday morning I watched news of a military coup in Honduras unfold via Twitter.

President Manuel Zelaya Rosales was facing strong opposition to a non-binding constitutional referendum, opposed by the Supreme Court, the Armed Forces and the Honduran legislature, that would have allowed him to ask to run for another term. Instead of allowing the vote, army leaders arrested Zelaya and forced him into exile in Costa Rica,
where he is no seeking asylum. Word is that one of the leaders of the coup is Romeo Vasquez, a graduate of the U.S. run “you too can lead a coup school” School of the Americas.

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