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Latinos could do something about these and other types of outrageous fascistic tactics conducted by ICE agents on undocumented (and documented) Latinos.
Latinos could have a million Latino march on DC and scare the living hell out of the DNC,the Democratic party and the Obama administration.
Latinos have the power to make Obama a one term president in 2012-and the Democrats sure as hell know this.We do have the power to punish them.They of course will have their legions of Latino pimps and procurers out there once again fooling and deceiving Latinos,peddling more of that phony Obama “Change and Hope” Dope.What a bunch of damn crooks and con-men.

Latino Democrats should be served notice that unless they get off their worthless loutish self-serving opportunist butts they too will be packing their Samsonite luggage on election night if they don’t stand up for justice and defend the rights of Latinos like they were elected to do.What a bunch of disgusting third rate no-talent no brains bunch we have representing us.Gutless cowards,they are for the most part a shame and an embarrassment.That’s my personal opinion.

All this fascist crap can be stopped if Latinos unite and take action.
Those little ICE agent fascist freaks are basically cowards with a badge who are screwy el la cabeza can be put in their place.

Obama if he really wanted to could stop this fascist BS with just one phone call to the head of HS.You know bureaucrats-they are all cowards and lemmings at heart.ICE agents are at the bottom of that pile of feces system,they can be made to s..t in their diapers like the babies they truly are.
But he won’t,because he actually for different political motives and other agendas as well wants to get rid of and weaken Latinos in the USA.

After all THEY DO WORK FOR US..right?
We Latinos pay their salaries.We can and must take these little ICE bastards behind the woodshed and give them a good thrashing with a big stick,make these psychotic little ICE brats behave like civilized human beings instead of like wannabe German stormtroopers terrorizing workers,kids,the elderly and even documented Latinos.
This has to stop and we Latinos can do something about it.
If we fail to do so we share part of the blame for our predicament.

Kay pasa gente– I gree with both of you. I do think a million Latino march would work if it was followed by aggressive lobbying and creative ways to push for real immigration reform. But it would take some people with real pantalones to stand up to the old guard that future tense is talking about.

And that’s a struggle even at the local level. You wouldn’t believe the type of bullshit backlash we got from the Latino old guard leaders in my hometown of Fresno when a bunch of young organizers ran a campaign and succeeded in getting a good candadaite in office for our city council. I was so dissapointed that we’re now getting shitted on by our old guard leaders because “we didn’t consult them” before hitting the ground. It’s pathetic. All I know is when I see people yoynger than me getting a move on, my reaction is “great! less work for me!” and then I see if they need/want my support. What’s so hard about that? If we did that a little more, we’d have a real movement.

the american turists pays in mexico .

Re: “and even documented Latinos.”

You mean Americans. I’m not documented, or legal, or a US Latino. I’m an American, and you are too.

When you use language that casts yourself as the “other,” you will be treated as the other. I’m not saying that all racism will disappear if we call ourselves Americans, but how can you fight for your rights as an American, if you don’t even think of yourself as one?

Labels like Latino and Hispanic are meant to de-Americanize us and make us seem disconnected from our own country/land.

The whole hemisphere is called America, yet people from this country and this hemisphere aren’t called American.

As for Obama, I will not vote for him.

Karen : Soy Americana the second I set foot outside of the 50 states. The reality is that my calling myself “American” while living in the U.S. isn’t going to make me or anyone else less of an “other”. I didn’t other myself. There was/is a whole historic process that went into that.

I use Latina to make the connections among all Latin Americans and the history we share: a history of growth, development, beauty and struggle against imperialism and colonialism. No one gets to define what I should call myself except for me.

Not was Karen, is. It is alive and well regardless of what I or any other person of color calls themselves.

But this conversation was about ICE and immigration. I say anyone not making themselves loud and clear on immigration is pretty much irrelevant as a “progressive”.

It’s not progressive to avoid one of our most urgent Civil Rights problems in the US and then proclaim how progressive you are in every other area. It’s a copout. Just like declaring that nothing is pure enough so we’re just gonna disconnect from politics. We don’t need to be just protesting or lobbying, we need to bee at the table with hands on the money and a hand in the real decisions. Otherwise we’ll always be knocking at the door begging for crumbs. And that doesnt mean everyone needs to run for office, it means we engage the process and MAKE it work for us. The DREAM ACt student activists did a beautiful job, but it’s an ongoing battle.

But I suppose for some of us that’s just too much commitment to be at the table with people we dont agree with, when we can just complain about our leaders and stand to the side while someone else makes decisions about our children’s futures.