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Will There be a DREAM?

10:38 am By Maegan La Mala · DREAM Act|Immigration|Politics

10 Nov 2010

Organizations and the mass media are still buzzing about the Latino vote in the midterm elections, happy that in some races, Latinos seemingly stepped up and kept the Senate Democrat (even if by a tiny thread). Especially thankful is Nevada Democratic Senator Harry Reid, who promised, during his campaign, that if reelected the DREAM Act would be brought back to the Senate floor.

In September, a vote prevented the DREAM Act (and repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell) from being attached to a military spending bill.
Next week, the Senate will reconvene and everyone is wondering if Harry Reid will stick to his word and how. DREAM could be attached to the Defense Authorization bill, though that seems like an untenable option based on what happened in September and from scanning the preemptive work being done to keep DADT off that bill. DREAM could be attached to another bill or presented as a stand alone.

What also is not clear, is what is the organizational commitment behind getting DREAM passed this year. When it became clear that there would be no CIR bill, most pro-migrant orgs put their weight behind DREAM as a first step towards wider immigration reform. It’s not clear how much of a game changer the midterms were for the orgs as well.

Meanwhile the DREAMers are prepping to be in D.C. next week and putting pressure on from all over the U.S. to keep the DREAM alive.

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18 Responses to Will There be a DREAM?

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Karen

November 10th, 2010 at 1:00 pm

Yes, the Dream Act needs to be voted on before the end of the year, while Harry still remembers who kept him in office. Also, yesterday Jonathan Capehart of the Washington Post scapegoated The Dream Act for the failure of DADT to pass. Of course, that’s nuts, but people should be aware that some might want to postpone it for that reason.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/11/harry_reid_get_dont_ask_dont_t.html

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Maegan La Mala

November 10th, 2010 at 1:16 pm

Thanks for that link Karen

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J

November 10th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

We all know it isn’t passing. It looks like the House is going to bring it up first, which is good. It will probally pass there. Then, in the Senate, Reid still needs to get 4 votes to change who originally voted against it, plus 1 because Roland Burris will be gone by the end of the month and replaced by Mark Kirk who came out and said he opposes it. So I don’t see 5 votes changing.

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Karen

November 11th, 2010 at 12:07 am

I think people should lobby Kirk, Hatch and other Republicans anyway. You never know, they might flip.

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Maegan La Mala

November 11th, 2010 at 7:54 am

I know there is some serious lobbying happening as well as a hunger strike launched in Texas (more on that later)

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Chicano future tense

November 11th, 2010 at 12:51 pm

Observing the current political terrain,especially after the GOP shellacking of the Democrats last week,it appears to me the likeliness of passing the Dream Act is highly improbable.

Too little-too late,Immigration reform and the Dream Act was never seriously pushed in earnest by the Democrats in the same way they went for Obamacare.It was tossed around like a hot potato to be used for primarily for political opportunism, positioning to contending constituencies.

The bitter experiences of Latinos at the hands of treacheorous Democrats and a hostile GOP should serve as a “wake-up call”- a lesson-of how the american poltical system operates in the real world.

I think the traditional means of bringing about immigration reform by working within the arena of mainstream politics,the two-party system, is gradually exhausting itself as the only way of change.
More and more Latinos are beginning to realize that placing all their hope on such a system results in futility and resembles more of a trap.

I have a feeling that once this message is received loud and clear Latinos will consider other means such as civil disobedience and massive protest and resistance.

I can envision courageous Latinos,and other people as well becoming “padrinos” “sponsors” who refusing and resisting the unjust laws and policies of deportation will aid and protect undocumented workers,helping them keep their lives here in the USA.

This would be tantamount to civil disobedience,and I have a strong feeling this is what it will eventually come down to.
Just a thought..

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Karen

November 11th, 2010 at 4:21 pm

Re: “unjust laws and policies of deportation”

That’s where I kind of disagree. They came here without filling out the proper paperwork, and under the law any country has the right to deport people who came in illegally or who overstayed their visas. You and I couldn’t just set up shop in Canada without applying for legal residence.

You can make a case for the Dream Act because these kids came here before the age of consent and it’s wrong to send them back to a country they don’t know. But immigration at it’s current level cannot be sustained in this economy. The longer they stay the more they become an “illegal class,” and the rights of all Latinos will be under attack.

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Maegan La Mala

November 12th, 2010 at 9:01 am

Karen, your argument continues to be ridiculously offensive. All Latinos include the undocumented and that is what VivirLatino is all about.

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Maegan La Mala

November 12th, 2010 at 9:04 am

Chicano Furture Tense, I agree and have long agreed with that idea.

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Maegan La Mala

November 12th, 2010 at 9:04 am

Um that would be be FUTURE. Sorry. I hit send too soon

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Bryan j

November 12th, 2010 at 10:00 am

Karen:

Your argument seems to be copy and pasted from FAIR’s website.

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Karen

November 12th, 2010 at 7:05 pm

No it isn’t, and you know it. I have said in the past that I favor CIR and the Dream Act. I can see the Dream Act passing, but because of the bad economy, I can’t see CIR passing anytime soon, if ever.

My concern is that the GOP will take power and implement SB1070 nationally. Remember, the Justice Department is only arguing against SB1070 on the grounds that it usurps the role of the federal government in enforcing immigratuin law. That leaves the stage open for the federal government to implement it. Also, what if the Republicans eliminate the 14th Amendment? Then we’ll have a class of stateless people who are not citizens of this country or any country. Then they and their offspring can be cheap labor forever. And the rest of us who are citizens will be forced to carry passports in our own country, always under suspicion, always at risk of detention. Wake up because that’s where all of this is headed until somebody gets this issue under control.

Maybe this is catastrophizing, but Obama is weak President, and many of these lost jobs are never coming back, both of which would set the stage for a GOP win in 2012.

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Maegan La Mala

November 12th, 2010 at 11:17 pm

Wake up…we are already all under suspicion.

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onus

November 13th, 2010 at 12:12 am

this idea that undocumented people are regrettably-but-necessarily expendable in the documented’s struggle, that the documented have to leave them behind to scrape together some safety and liberation for themselves…just reinforces everyone’s subjugation. the whole problem is people with fewer rights than others getting squashed, reproducing that dynamic is just handing off the oppression instead of resisting it…

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Karen

November 13th, 2010 at 12:42 am

Re: “Wake up…we are already all under suspicion.”

No we’re not. Maybe it’s so bad where you live that losing your rights doesn’t even matter, but it matters to me and to many others. I don’t want SB1070 in my state. I also don’t want a group of stateless people in this country that will end up like the gypsies of Europe. What is wrong with you that you think rights are meaningless?!

To Onus: I would agree with you except for the fact that people are determined to cross the border no matter what, which means that the issue will never be resolved. How do you propose to end this subjugation? CIR won’t end it because millions of more will just come here, and the whole process will start all over again. I know how to end it: they need to fight for freedom in Mexico and Central America. That’s the root of the problem.

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M.A.

November 13th, 2010 at 11:34 am

My mom’s side of the family is Greek, and my great-grandfather I know in particular was living in the middle of a war zone and came to the US as a teenager to escape a bad situation. I don’t blame them and say why didn’t they stay there and try to solve the problem in their own country. Just like many Latino immigrants today help the places they are originally from, my great-grandfather sent money back to areas in Greece that needed it – when he left it was one war he was escaping with the Turkish/Ottoman Empire – but 40 years later there was another – WWII – and he helped his family members over there into college so that they got out of the the requirement to fight and sent supplies to those who were in the military. Italy tried to take over allowing the axis forces in and the Greeks said “OXI,” No!, and they still celebrate Oxi day today. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohi_Day If it wasn’t for the Greeks in other countries supporting their friends and family back home in their goals, WWII could’ve looked very different. I don’t think being an immigrant who is trying to become a part of their new American community means that they forget the one they came from and don’t try to make it better, too. Certainly the Latino immigrants I have met have family back in their birth countries that they care about and support and keep up with what is going on over there.

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Maegan La Mala

November 13th, 2010 at 8:23 pm

Ay Karen, I give up. I am not engaging with you anymore because I do not engage with people willing to throw their own under the bus to save themselves. That’s not justice. That’s self-interest and using the master’s tools. Good luck with that and you can be sure that all of your comments will be carefully monitored because the idea here in this space is that everyone gets justice.

Hola!

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