Yes on immigration; the “securing the border” is the bait for an upcoming comprehensive immigration reform. This can’t be done w/ only Democrats voting. It’s a complicated matter and Obama is doing the right thing. Be patient.

My family is not at risk but the families of my neighbors and friends are. Tell them to be patient. I don’t buy it

Reform is necessary but will not come quickly or easily. He is not ‘selling out immigrants’ – illegal immigration is still illegal, no matter how you try to sugar-coat it. Our laws apply to legal immigrants of this country, so now we have to find a way to make it so that people can become legal citizens and thus have access to the United States.

Do tell what that means, take care of the border?

Pedro, I used to hear that until it made me sick from white bigots in the fifties, sixties, and seventies. When somebody is being deprived of their human rights patience is not the correct response.

Far too much patience is being exercised over multiple wars, crumbling infrastructure, and the galloping wealth gap.

As has been regularly stated here, it would be the “reform is hard to pass” argument for obama would be more persuasive if Obama halted all deportations of non-violent offenders i.e. most of those who are deported. And that’s not even addressing the very possible conclusion that deporting violent criminals does anything to improve public safety. In fact, MS-13 metastasized into what it is today due to, in part, the deportation of violent criminals.

Heh, Heh, The november elections are coming and many, many democrats are going to loose their seats in the house and senate.
After that, amnisty will be D.O.A….Actually, it has been for quite some time even with democrats in control. You see, Nothing has been done for the obvious reason that many democratic leaders will not vote in favor of immigration reform. just as they didn’t when bush tried and failed three years ago. You are kidding Yourselves. sneaking into a foreign Nation is illegal for anyone regardless of their race, color or ehnicity. And those that ignore immigration law are soon going to find it very difficult to find many that will hire them. Arizona is only the first of many states that are truly going to be enforcing immigration law. The fiesta is over.

Perfect example of why both legal and “illegal” immigrants decide to come to America- because their corrupt, inefficient countries do not enjoy the freedoms America provides. Case and point. Maegan La Mala does not support America’s 1st Amendment, therefore, she elects to “delete” my text because she does not like the word “illegal”- LOL. So much for opposing thoughts. The thought police would be proud. I suppose if I were in her native country I would be jailed- or even worst- killed. Luckly we are in America.
Kristen Amelia
No, I am not implying that Latinos are low skilled workers. I am firmly stating that- aggregately- most “illegal Mexicans” are low skilled workers and do not add value to OUR economy.

Calif. Penal Code Sec. 834b
834b. (a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws.
(b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following:
(1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her legal status.Arizona has plenty to do fighting the effects of illegal immigration. It’s a shame that because of our efforts to protect our citizens and uphold federal law, we now have to fight ignorance, too.

This article writer is on the money. Obama talks lip service with this so called need people from the other side of the isle. Now I remember that with healthcare reform. Procastination is his greatest strength. The guy has no logic. The other side is taking him to task on this. Think about it, when they want something, they lie and fearmonger to get it. When Obama wants something, he needs to ask to hold hands. Sorry Obama, when you did healthcare, it was for your own personal reasons. Stick to your promises or stop trying to pretend you are a changer, rather more of the same bogus politician.

Way so manny trups to the border?Maybe it s about Korea or Iran ?He can be a nuclear atac and we r afraid from mexican to do not invaid USA?If it s gota be a nuclear war maybe we need to be UNITED in this kind of situations.If it s gona start another war ,wen we gona talk again about IMMIGRATION LOW?Ok it s not gota be a immigration comprehensiv,but give oportuniti to the people who have cildren born in usa to work and learnd engleash .If it s gone be a war we pray for imigration low before war.

Look, what really is at stake here? Our country needs immigrant labor. Immigrants do work that no one else will do, they actually bring vibrancy to communities and stimulate the economy. They create higher paying jobs for nationals such as supervisors, trainers, and all of the service positions that cater to workers. Could it be that immigration is one big fat red herring that gets waved every time they want to distract us from what we should really be paying attention to? Like our banking system? The federal reserve? The department of defense? A corrupt Congress? So there’s that – immigration induces panic. And then there are the benefits of having “illegal” workers – easier to exploit, will work for less, can be easily intimidated, and when they are rounded up, they get put into detention centers run by corporations like Halliburton (remember them?) where tax dollars are paid to these corporations to house these “illegals” for months – at our expense.

So my question is, do we really want to solve the immigration question or does it benefit way too many people to be able to change?

Andre, you are talking foolishness and have just proved it. I was born and raised in the U.S. My native country is a colony of the U.S.
The only reason I allowed your last comment was so that I could out your idiocy.

Unless of course you meant to say that the U.S. is corrupt and inefficient, in which case we agree.

And you are right, VivirLatino is not a democracy.

Thanks Dan

I failed and engaged, Sabina.

ai, dios mio. who knew that deleting an objectionable comment=conviction of a thought crime. i thought “conviction”=prison sentence or something.

Next time the New York times refuses to publish a letter to the editor, lawsuits!

Indeed it is Megan. Sorry about that…Amnesty. Seems Your wound a bit tight. Relax.

Yea Mala, it’s hard to just let it go on and ooooonnn

Meagan

I do not hate my Latino brethren; immigration is the fiber that binds America. I have a problem with your hidden agenda. I assumed you were capable honest debate. You have zeal; however, lack the integrity to handle such debate. Do not fear opposing “Thoughts”.

WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

And there is nothing hidden about my agenda

Damn! M-A-E-G-A-N. Got it now.

Eddie Brown

So much for American values. Let the 1st Amendment live “Kim il” Meagan. LOL. 2 funny.

Meagan La Mela

Congratulation, you are your way to both assimilating and adopting fundamental American principals- the right to agree to disagree. Although suppression of information is the standard for many 3rd world countries (many Latino), it is frowned upon with respect to efficient systems such as ours.

actually, eddie, *I”M* deleting what is not in line with MY view. *sweet smile*

“Kim il” Meagan

That is fine. If you do not want opposing “Thought”. Just say so. I will refrine from “YOUR” blog. You have already made a joke of yourself. LOL. Have a great day.

Ahh, I knew You were a softie. All’s forgiven. I can emagine Your frustration watching CIR slowly crash and burn. So, By all means, Delete onward Sunshine.

And Bryan, Thank You for sharing Your bottomless well of wisdom.
You will make a fine lawyer one day.

Why should the US government give unconditional amnesty to 12 million+ people who are in the US illegally. Over 75% of them are from Mexico or the Spanish-speaking western hemisphere. We will be giving them most of the benefits which our citizens already enjoy, but just as importantly, we will be giving them vast opportunity and even more importantly, great security of life and property. The problem is that they are Hispanic or Latino and not for example Mexican-Americans or Gutamalan-Americans. In essence they will be American-Mexicans or American-Gutamalans, Mexicans or Gutamalans who live in America. I know thousands of Mexican-Americans but very few Hispanics. I distrust words such as “hispanic”, “latino” or “chicano” and “anglo” and see them as mythic and exclusive. I exalt words such as German-American, Mexican-American, Chinese-American etc, for they are much more specific and much more inclusive. Such words tell me what are an individual’s roots, where he is from, but also what his nationality is: he is an American. “Hispanic” tells me none of that.
If amnesty is given to all of the illegal immigrants presently in the USA, it will solve but one problem, these illegal immigrants will now be legal. We will continue to face an illegal immigration problem and that is the issue. The majority of Americans want a zero immigration policy and presently only draconian measures will succeed. Too many foreign nationals today believe that they have a right to come to the USA. We must face the anchor-baby question. Every time a baby is born in the USA of a non-citizen mother, we face the question of a dis-unified family. We must face the issue of assimilation, the conflict between the metaphorical melting pot and the metaphorical stew is at the heart of disagreement of what America will become. It should not matter which racial group, or cultural group or linguistic group is the majority group or the largest minority. Some things should not change. We are an English-speaking nation; be bilingual or multilingual, but to participate as an American you must speak English.
We have an American culture; enjoy you ethnic culture, but to participate as an American you must understand and be able to participate in the American culture. We have an American value/legal system, by these we expect all to abide. Finally, eventually we would expect you to be a something-American, important because it indicates that you indeed are an American and that you swear your allegiance to our nation: that your nationality is American and that your loyalty to your nation is stronger than any loyalty to an ethnic or cultural group.
You wish for immigration reform. What are you willing to sacrifice to gain some form of amnesty. Would you accept limited conditional amnesty. Would you accept a changing of the 14th amendment regarding citizenship for those born on American soil. Would you accept draconian laws of enforcement to prevent future illegal immigration. Would you accept stricter monitoring of the US-Mexico border and a greater enforcement presence be it border patrol or national guard? Would you accept severe limits on the sponsoring of foreign family members? Would you accept laws making illegal immigration a felony and adding and abetting an illegal immigrant a felony, as was the law in Mexico?
There is a thin line between illegal immigration and invasion. That is one reason nations have immigration policies. When I view individuals who are not American citizens engaging in an internal American issue, that concerns me. When I observe individuals who disrespect my flag or my national anthem that concerns me. When I observe individuals break the law by being in this country and than break other laws because they are under the assumption that the end justifies the means, that concerns me. When I observe individuals whose loyalty is greater to their cultural brothers than it is to their fellow Americans, that concerns me.
I would hope that we would become one people from many peoples and not many peoples living in one land. I would hope that we would remain a nation united by language, culture, history and law and not a nation disunited and balkanized by race or culture or language. I would hope for the Americanization of Hispanics and not the Hispanization of America: that all evolve into something-Americans and that the number of American-somethings dwindles with time. I would hope as Rev. King dreamed, that all the children, regardless of race, culture or religion would someday dance together.
Truly, united we will stand and divided we will fall. The steel of the melting pot will be stronger than its components, but the ingredients in the stew pot will in the end just be spoiled and rotten.

Richard,

The use of “illegal immigrant” is not accepted here. Future comments using that language will be deleted. A person cannot be illegal. It’s not bad grammar, bad English. Also references to an invasion are not acceptable either because that is just not factual.

This applies to all comments.

That said, what is a myth is the melting pot, especially when it comes to immigrants of color.

Additionally I find using the words of the Rev. King to defend anti-immigration gross.

Over and out Maegan. You have crossed a line from trying to limit the truly offensive,…To being weirdly neurotic. Good luck to You.