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Netroots Nation : Invisibility and Identity in Progressive Spaces Part 1

August 15th, 2009

I have been hesitant in many ways to write about Netroots Nation 09. As always, I am grateful to have the opportunity to come to these spaces, even if it ends up being an isolating experience. Trust me, NN09 is not like the Allied Media Conference, where while yes I faced challenges, as an activist rwoc blogger I didn’t feel so completely alone, so compelled to render myself invisible and confront that invisibility all at the same time. That has been my experience here at NN09.

I won’t get into the more personal ways I have been marginalized and forced to make myself invisible. I will write about that over at Mamita Mala, pero I want to write about how in these so called progressive spaces, women of color, specifically radical women of color who dare to question the way feminism is framed and the way struggles done in our name are framed, are forced to make a statement by their absence.


Attacking the blogger, not the person
On the first day at Netroots Nation I encountered a fellow blogger, a male of color who has criticized me and this blog before. He specifically began attacking me prior to my going to the Democratic National Convention as a credentialed blogger. This person attacked my perspective as a Nuyorican/Puerto Rican woman, my use of language (specifically Spanglish), and clearly did not do his homework and stil hasn’t, because he claims that VivirLatino takes a conservative stance towards Latin American politics. This blogger does not claim the word Latino because he feels it erases/marginalized indigenous identity in Latin America, which is a position I can respect even if I disagree with it. It’s actually quite funny because the reason why this blogger and I started talking in the elevator here at NN09 was because I said something in Spanish. When he told me who he was, I reacted by telling him that I felt like he didn’t like me very much. This apparently was code for “take out your video camera and film mala”.

To be honest, at first the camera didn’t bother me. I am confident enough as a blogger and as a mujer. Additionally I was protected in some way by another person who filmed me being filmed. Pero the longer I stood in the gaze of his camera lens, which included a very obvious panning up and down over my body, the more it felt like a violation. The blogger was attempting to explain to me that his attacks were not of me, Maegan Ortiz but rather of Mamita Mala the blogger. In fact he pointed out that now that he had seen me, he had a different impression.

Here’s the problem, people that know Maegan la Mamita Mala Ortiz know that what you see is what you get. Mamita Mala isn’t just some cute sounding persona, it is chosen name that reflects my identity as mujer Rican mami and the muliple layers of that. I speak in Spanglish, I can code switch like no one’s fucking business, and look fierce while doing it. This blogger tried to separate my blogging identity from my “real? identity and failed porque they are continuing lines/pedazos de vida.

This blogger then thought it would be a great idea to make fun of my body language in a way that insinuated stereotypical Latinidad much in the same way that Jose Antonio Vargas referred my flailing Puerto Rican ponytail in a Washington Post interview during the DNC last year. Additionally, in a completely machista closing move, the blogger attempted to take credit for my writing on certain issues and ask why I wasn’t Mamita buena.

I don’t think the blogger in question has posted the video he took of me. Likely porque he looks like machista asshole attacking a mujer with his camera and words and I come off as fierce. Pero let there be no mistake. This experience set a tone for me that has left me feeling unsafe. I can remember when the encounter went down people were around watching pero were people doing anything other than observing? The next day, the blogger in question stood in front of me offering me chips at a movie screening. I and one other person told him to just stay out of my face. I haven’t seen him since pero honestly being here at Netroots Nation now feels in many ways physically unsafe and I don’t have a posse of radical women of color to protect me or a circle of sanity to retreat to the way I did during the DNC. What I do have is other pro-migrant bloggers who have done a hell of a job rendering me invisible and forcing myself to make a statement by making myself invisible. Pero that’s a whole different post that will come next.

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  • bianca says on: August 15, 2009 at 10:46 am

     

    I got your back Mala!

    Its odd that this is constantly the same situation over and over at such spaces. I mean it really is kind of predictable, which shows them that they are not as on the vanguard/progressive/unique/special as they think they are. Your first day experience is very much a violation and form of abuse and I wonder if he sees himself in this way, especially as he was videotaped doing so.

    You are about justice and that holds people responsible immediately!

  • ansel says on: August 15, 2009 at 11:49 am

     

    Ugh! Okay, he had some disagreements, but what the hell did he whip out the camera for? Without your permission? Is that what people (bloggers) do now – any time they disagree with a person they pull out a camera and film the argument to potentially put on Youtube? That’s conflict ‘resolution’ through intimidation.

  • Maegan la Mala says on: August 15, 2009 at 12:02 pm

     

    Gracias mujer just came out of a caucus space that was really intense as this issue was raised. I really want to acknowledge how important it is to move away from the process of individualizing things like this as opposed to seeing them as a wider issue of woc/poc spaces/communities and how we as community confront issues like machismo and violence. I am grateful that there were mujeres and men in the caucus space who stepped up and acknowledged that this is important and not a waste of time as the person who attacked me said.

  • Maegan la Mala says on: August 15, 2009 at 12:06 pm

     

    Ansel!!!! So happy to see you here. Yeah the camera was used as a weapon, which sometimes is useful pero not when it’s done in a violent, sexist way. This was clear when there was another camera shooting him shooting me and the response was, I feel under attack.

  • la Macha says on: August 15, 2009 at 5:22 pm

     

    omg, mala, i can’t believe that shit! it feels like you need to get some pictures of him so that you are on equal footing with him–I agree with both bianca and ansel–this is a form of violence and intimidation–”look at what I can ‘do’ to you,” he is saying.

    Fuck him. and if he posts that shit, we all know why. And we will call it out for what it is, a man using his machismo to ‘own and control’ a woman he can’t figure out.

    Fuck him.

  • Maegan la Mala says on: August 15, 2009 at 6:36 pm

     

    What is sad about this to me is that some things that he says are spot on in terms of Latinos, pero when he was confronted he pulled this stuff that as a Latino gay male he can’t attack me and now is saying that I attacked him. Tired

  • adam says on: August 15, 2009 at 10:53 pm

     

    Please email me when you can — I am troubled by this and want to find out what we need to do to make NN a comfortable space for *all* our attendees. Let’s talk.

    Adam Bonin
    Chair, NN board of directors
    Adam@netrootsnation.org

  • Maegan la Mala says on: August 16, 2009 at 7:21 am

     

    Adam,

    Thank you so much for coming here. It’s very refreshing to see the leadership of NN making safety a priority. I will contact you.

  • TexMex says on: August 16, 2009 at 9:18 am

     

    umm. Why do all the Progressives/Netroots get slammed because of an nasty exchange with ONE another blogger.

    And by you own admission it ws ok at first and you were not lone.
    “To be honest, at first the camera didn’t bother me. I am confident enough as a blogger and as a mujer. Additionally I was protected in some way by another person who filmed me being filmed.”

    “pero honestly being here at Netroots Nation now feels in many ways physically unsafe and I don’t have a posse of radical women of color to protect me or a circle of sanity to retreat to the way I did during the DNC. ”
    Did YOU reach out?
    “isolating experience”
    I sat right next to you and you couldn’t even turn to greet me como la gente.

    Now it is the Netroots fault???

    I don’t understand……
    And then of course the Latino’s caucus totally became about you and him.
    How are we Latinos going to be able to support each other when we spoil our opportunity to network and our cause deteriorates into “courtroom games”.
    I was disappointed and embarrassed by the whole thing.
    I am a short Latina woman who has told a Marine off.
    Be strong!
    Your voice will be stronger if you are fearless!
    Las Adelitas taught us that.
    My grandmother was treasurer of the Pecan Sheller’s Union in 1938. She was a radical’s radical!

    http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/PP/oep1.html
    These women stood up to being beaten by police in San Antonio and won.
    Don’t be afraid Mamita be strong.
    A proud and fearless Latina…….

  • Maegan La Mala says on: August 16, 2009 at 10:22 am

     

    I’m saddened that you think it’s ok to negate my experience. If you like you can read other posts prior to this one and ones that will come later that demonstrate why I claim my space as radical and not progressive. I am not blaming the conference organizers, I am looking at an atmosphere and a politic that says it’s ok to roll up on a mujer and make fun of her body language. No se if the video will come out pero if we cannot discuss how we as latinos treat each other, especially men and women at a latino caucus then where? If we can’t communicate with other in respectful and not violating ways in person, why should I be expected to engage with you online?

    You made it very clear at the Latino caucus that you were not a person I wanted to reach out to. If I was in a space that felt unsafe why is it my responsibility to reach out? I spoke out.

    Your abuelita’s legacy is strong and I am grateful and appreciative of those that paved a path for mujeres como tu y como yo.

    I am a fearless mujer, so fearless that I am not afraid to speak out even in the face attempts to silence.

  • la Macha says on: August 16, 2009 at 7:45 pm

     

    tex mex–I read your comments with a lot of anger. It is why I don’t bother with mainstream (and yes, this netnation is mainstream–it’s not even *close* to progressive, much less radical), organizing, because *networking* is more important than dealing with the reality of our neighborhoods. Our communities are RIFE with sexual assault, aggression and machismo–and to deal with that, we need women supporting women, NOT individual action. so it’s great that you told off that marine–but I can promise you, if that marine wanted to hurt you, he would’ve. The only way he *couldn’t” hurt you is if you had twenty other women standing around you saying, we dare you. But all of us find networking more important than protecting other women, so he knows he can get away with it and individual women continue to get violated.

    And besides that–it’s not the woman’s job to stop assault, rape, etc. it’s the man’s job. All those millions of latinas who have gotten raped and assaulted–did they just need to ‘be stronger’ and draw on their adelita roots? And then they wouldn’t have gotten raped?

    I would rather have the issue of sexual assault or violence against women brought to the forefront of our ‘community’ gatherings and talked about than to “network”–to me, your safety and my safety and mamita’s safety is incomparably more important than networking. And frankly, it’s easier to fight off problems from the outside than it is to look at the problems with the person standing next to you. It takes courage to stand up and say, i have a real problem with how I’ve been treated, and then have a person in your own hood call you ‘embarrassing’ and you STILL get back up and say, we HAVE to deal with this.

    I think that it’s most embarrassing that women have to explain this to other women.

    And one last thing–Adelita’s are in OUR backgrounds–chicanas, mexicanas, mexican-americans—mamita is puerto rican. I think one of the most helpful things we can all do if we are going to organize together is to recognize our differences.

  • ansel says on: August 16, 2009 at 11:04 pm

     

    “umm. Why do all the Progressives/Netroots get slammed because of an nasty exchange with ONE another blogger. ”

    umm, TexMex, I don’t see where that’s said anywhere in the post. She’s talking about aspects of this particular conference.

  • Carlos in DC says on: August 20, 2009 at 1:52 pm

     

    Maegan, seriously what is behind all of this drama?

    I am trying to reach out to you and understand what is your reason to make things look worse than what they are. I regret this has happened, I already apologized to you in person, for posting about your blog (!)

    Anyways, I am posting something today in my blog including the mentioned video. I hope it will end this mess.

    We are people after all and I respect your feelings but please be honest and balanced on your statements towards me, really.

  • Ahni says on: August 20, 2009 at 5:20 pm

     

    Speaking as an observer, it does seem like this situation w/ Carlos is being made out to be more than it actually is.

    I don’t say that to undermine you or anything like that, Maegan. I’ve just had my own share of disagreements and I know how heated things can get and how quick we can take things out of context — especially if we’re already in a stressful environment. We all still have to own up to what’s ours, though. And if it’s not ours to carry, then we have throw it away.

    I mean, was Carlos, a gay male, really trying to attack you as Puerto Rican woman? If there were guys there who were then I would like to drop kick them (at least, intellectually), but that doesn’t mean Carlos was following that pathetic lead. Mind you, if I was in your position and he panned down I would have felt exactly as you did, but our feelings can misdirect us.

    In any event, regardless of who’s right or wrong, I think the point here is to learn from experience.

  • Los Anjalis says on: August 20, 2009 at 8:22 pm

     

    First, meagan i’m sorry this happened. I wasn’t present at the incident and wasn’t present at the latino caucus, but I heard about it. And then today i saw the video on said blogger’s site, and on all counts, said blogger really was inappropriate. truly inappropriate to videotape, to dismiss your feelings, to continue expressing how you somehow ghettoize latino culture and not apologizing for anything. and then wondering what he did wrong.

    Now, I must respond to texmex and ahni.

    texmex — i don’t think it’s cool to dismiss mamita mala’s experience and twist her words to make it look like she’s blaming all the “netroots” for this incident. it’s also not cool to say well mujer just stand up, fight back. also, embarassing? come on. i wasn’t at the latino caucus but i think that word is loaded and inappropriate. you don’t have to necessarily agree with maegan but give a little respect to another blogger’s experience.

    ahni — REALLY? just because a GAY man of color does this towards a woman of color, it’s not a real attack of some sort? because gay males are really non threatening? anything they do is more excusable? they’re more feminine, can’t be machismo? i’m not sure what you’re implying, but i’ve heard this argument so many times before.

    maegan, i think it would be productive to flesh out — outside of this attack/incident — more of why the culture felt unsafe at NN09. i’m not pushing you to write what feels uncomfortable (too often, rwoc are pushed to do that while others aren’t) but if you feel so compelled to, i think it would be helfpul.

    Also, adam — thanks so much man for checking out this site and responding earnestly about wanting to get feedback. that’s truly wonderful! i have some constructive criticisms and some practical suggestions for next year’s conference and i will relay them. thx!

  • Maegan la Mala says on: August 21, 2009 at 11:19 am

     

    Hola Anjali,

    Yes I agree I need to flesh out the wider context as to why this felt like an attack in the specific space. I have just been so exhausted, mentally and physically from that and other experiences that came out of NN09, pero you are right. maybe this weekend.

    As for the other comments, I don’t even have the energy to argue now.

  • Ahni says on: August 21, 2009 at 12:30 pm

     

    “just because a GAY man of color does this towards a woman of color, it’s not a real attack of some sort?” …

    I spoke a little bit hasty there… that’s not at all what I meant to say, Los Anjalis. An attack is an attack regardless of who it comes from, of course.

    I was speaking particularly about the camera thing. It may be pure idealism, but it’s hard for me to believe that a gay man would be “checking out” any woman like she was an object. It certainly doesn’t appear in the interview that C did this.

  • Noemi says on: August 21, 2009 at 12:38 pm

     

    in the video it does look like the camera person is “checking out” Maegan, and it doesn’t matter if the intent was for his own gratification (which Ahni is implying can’t happen because he is gay) or if its to somehow insinuate that she is “ghetto” or sexualized or for the amusement of his audience, implying this is what a bad mami looks like and this is what a good mami shouldn’t look like? It was improper and fucked up.

  • Carlos in DC says on: August 23, 2009 at 8:29 pm

     

    Nah, I am not checking her out, I was video recording her name tag, Maegan is cute though. But you want to know what I think of discrimination, and Puerto Ricans in NYC? check this post I wrote which by the way forced the producers to pay the WaPo for a first page story about it.

    http://carlosqc.blogspot.com/2008/12/west-side-story-at-national-theater-in.html

    Saludos.

  • Laura says on: August 24, 2009 at 5:30 pm

     

    One thing that I want to point out. From the video, it does look like he was trying to film your name tag which was dangling from your chest: http://carlosqc.blogspot.com/
    and two, it seems a little ironic to make such a big deal of someone recording your name tag when your twitter profile picture only shows your chest in a bikini. (not even your face!) Is that how you are fighting sexism and machismo?

  • la Macha says on: August 24, 2009 at 7:39 pm

     

    Laura–Mamita said a WHOLE BUNCH of things–not just “he was checking me out”–she said she was startled and unnerved by the entire experience, part of which included the panning up and down *because she didn’t know what he was going to do with the video*. If you reread the post, she specifically addresses your point by saying that she usually doesn’t mind the attention and enjoys it most of the time.

    The point was as I saw it–mamita has control over how she represents herself. She doesn’t have control *and is never invited or ASKED to participate in how she is represented* when men are representing her. She pointed to a specific instance that had happened previously where a latino man who claimed to be on her “side” represented her extremely unfairly and in a sexist way–BECAUSE HE COULD.

    And on a personal note Laura–I have to wonder why it matters what the hell mamita is wearing. If she is standing there buck naked and somebody makes her feel intimidated and anxious, is that our turn to say “put some clothes on?” Or is that our turn to say why *can’t* a woman stand buck naked without fearing intimidation, assault and rape? How is it “fighting sexism and machismo” to dress like a nun? If we dress like nuns so that men don’t rape us, is that changing men’s behavior at all? I mean, come on.

  • Maegan La Mala says on: August 25, 2009 at 6:34 am

     

    Wow que triste that as a response to concerns and issues I raise, the best people can come up with is, well on your twitter page your tetas are showing? See that’s not a personal note, that is in fact moving away the conversation that I am trying to have about how we treat each other as so called co-activists and allies. Seriously, if you are going to focus on how I choose to represent myself, that is as political mujer in all aspects, including sexually, and use that against me, I have zero desire to work with you and have zero trust that you will have my back and my community’s back.

    Please let me know your twitter name Laura so I can unfollow you and vice-versa and you won’t have to be assaulted by my political words and yes my political cuerpo.

  • Noemi says on: August 25, 2009 at 8:56 am

     

    so let me get this straight, by a mujer not wearing a bikini or dressing or expressing herself as she so desires, this will in fact help fight sexism and machismo? stop the presses! this IS news. /snark.