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Are Black Puerto Ricans Black Enough?

9:26 am By Jennifer Woodard Maderazo · Internet| Puerto Rico| race

29 Aug 2007

Last year Rican readers of VL were all up in arms about Rosie Perez’s documentary and the “blackness” of the AfroRican/black Ricans and Ricans in general. Liza from Culture Kitchen discusses blackness in Puerto Rico and explains what the hell trigueño actually means on NPR.

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8 Responses to Are Black Puerto Ricans Black Enough?

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Latino Pundit

August 29th, 2007 at 4:01 pm

Sad how some readers don’t get the African/Latino ties. They do get it but, I see the readers had a problem w/ Black American Vs. Black African. And that’s a culture thing, which ultimately translates into a we are not like them mentality.

I posted something today about how our Afro/Latino education is severely lacking. Later today another post addresses the same post.

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Mario

August 29th, 2007 at 6:40 pm

As I stated previously, Latino is a culture rather than an ethnicity.

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Ramón

August 30th, 2007 at 11:04 am

The correct spelling is trigueño/a – not trigeño.
[e] preceeded by [g] produces an [h] sound in Spanish, such as geografía.

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Maegan la Mala

August 30th, 2007 at 12:50 pm

Fair enough! Gracias.

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corey

March 13th, 2008 at 11:14 am

no your incorrect latino is not a race but it is an ethnicity/ethnic group with as a whole a shared culture/language unless ur brazillian.

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Maegan la Mala Ortiz

March 13th, 2008 at 12:39 pm

You are right, Latino is not a race. Latinos can be and are of many races but Latinos are racialized in this country and that cannot be ignored.

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Jay

December 19th, 2008 at 10:56 am

Why would anyone lend any credence to anything Rosie Perez has to say? As a child I would cringe whenever I would hear her speak, or see her in a movie. She was everything that embodied the worst of PRs, she was completely ghettoized (and those were the only roles she played), she spoke in a ridiculously exaggerated tone and slang, and carried herself in the most absurd way. I was/embarassed for her, and her family should be equally embarassed. And yet somehow, I could not, even to this day, figure out why she represented anything other than a hoodrat, which has NOTHING to do with PRs. Regarding the specific Latino/African confusion…it is really quite simple and not sure why anyone is confused. Being Hispanic is not a race, as it is a mix of different types of people. So you can have some that look black because THEY ARE BLACK, you can have some that look Indian because THEY ARE INDIAN, you can have some that look asian because THEY ARE ASIAN, and you can have some that look white because THEY ARE WHITE. Most, however, are some mix of these, and every country has different mixes based on immigration patterns and historical purpose of each country. This is not a difficult concept.

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Acosta

January 3rd, 2009 at 11:45 am

This is an interesting conversation, and topic. About three
years ago, I entered a university program that was African
centered, basically the concepts we were introduced to were
not Eurocentric but were written by African scholars from
all over the world, as an invidual of Puerto Rican ethnicity
who is mixed, of course I wondered how do these concepts apply to the people of African descent in the Caribbean or
Central and South America, one concept caught my attention
it is Cheikh Anta Diop’s (African anthrolopogist) and Dr.
Caruthers ideas on worldviews; I read the works and history of Puerto Rico using these models as a lens, one particular
figure’s discourses I read were Dr. Pedro Albizu Campos’ ideas on race, and Arturo A. Schomburg’s ideas on race in the early 20th century, analysing both subjects ideas via
the lens of Diop’s two cradle theory, was enlighting. Diop
believed that every culture had a primal formative template
that was formed based on the environment where groups formed prior to Europe coming into existance, he called these groups
races as they were called prior to and in the early 20th century, in P.R. as in Cuba, Santo Domingo (read on the Haitian revolution) the worldviews and history is primarily told through a Eurocentric lens, even our own scholars abide by this in academia, although Albizu may have meant well,
and no doubt he safriced his freedom because he belived that P.R. should be free from the U.S., his ideas on race followed the trend in the 1930’s on race. Race was redefined by Spain and pushed on the masses, the AFrican and Native American was incorporated into this new neocolonial schema of race, but it was a partial story of our ancestry and
the Spanish interpretation of the African propogated through
this idea of race called “La Raza,” read the cosmic race
by Vasconcelos written in 1925, that was the formula passed on in P.R. and the places that were colonized by the Spaniards. Just a thought.

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