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Elvira Arellano Has a Song

9:12 am By Jennifer Woodard Maderazo · Blogs Media| Immigration| Music

21 Aug 2007

elvira.jpgI’m not into folk/folky kind of music (and can do w/o the Jesus reference) but I’m down with the message behind Elvira’s Song.

I also want to publicly state that I am disgusted by some of the comments left here concerning Elvira’s case, particularly those comments attacking her as a mother. As a madre and as a latina, we all do our best for our children and ourselves based on our circumstances. To label Elvira criminal without a larger analysis of the immigration/race issue is ignorant and reactionary. To attack her as a mother is to show little understanding of the history of Latina mami activism.

Via / American Taino

6 Responses to Elvira Arellano Has a Song

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Richard

August 21st, 2007 at 11:47 am

If she wants what is best for he child, why did she put her child through this. She knew what would happen. She chose to put her child in this situation. She knew the law and risked her child saftey for her self.

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Mario

August 21st, 2007 at 1:02 pm

“To label Elvira criminal without a larger analysis of the immigration/race issue is ignorant and reactionary. To attack her as a mother is to show little understanding of the history of Latina mami activism.”

Ms. Arellano is not a criminal in the traditional sense, but she is a law breaker. I do not blame anyone for wanting a better life for themselves or their loved ones that is only natural. With that being said, and keeping in mind that we are a nation of immigrants, there a number of issues that irk many people. Speaking for myself, why should my tax money pay for the education of the children of illegals, pay for their medical bills and why is speaking Spanish practically a mandatory requirement for getting a job these days? God bless Ms. Arellano for wanting what is best for her child, however she is still a law breaker.

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Emily G.

August 22nd, 2007 at 1:44 pm

The inevitable is happening: we are tired of NOTHING happening with the millions who are here illegally. The solutions are fairly simply and not necessarily cruel, though not necessarily what undocumented immigrants would prefer.
1. Force employers of illegals to drop them from the payroll. Heavy sanctions and raids should be effective. Those industries are NOT going to fail as a result — there are still many willing to work in those positions.
2. Arrest and return the undocumented to their countries of origin, along with their dependents. Kids under 18 should not be automatically granted citizenship. It’s insane and no other developed economy in the world doles out citizenship in this way.
3. When an entire family is deported, they will figure out a way to earn a living in their country. At the same time, they can apply for LEGAL US residency and citizenship, get a basic education, learn English and have something to offer besides being able to breath. We have enough unskilled workers of our own, thank you, without allowing them to pour across our borders.

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JP R

August 23rd, 2007 at 9:49 am

Don’t be ridiculous Emily: “they will figure out a way to earn a living in their country” Why do you think they came here in the first place? The situation in many towns in Mexico is desperate for many families who can’t even feed their children. You think they want to come up north to be the subject of raids, deportations and the vitriol of ignorant ill-informed xenophobes like yourself?

Its not as simple as saying “well they should come here legally” either. The government, in their infinite wisdom, chose to close down the immigration quotas in the 60s(making getting legal papers literally like winning the lottery) even while they knew that the demand for immigrant labor in this country was extraordinary. What do you think is going to happen? When there is extraordinary demand for labor north of the border and an extraordinary supply of people literally dying to work just south of it, people will come.

Lastly, saying “WE ARE TIRED OF IT” is so disingenuous. You, like the rest of us Americans, benefit from the illegal immigrant influx because they fill jobs that aren’t being filled otherwise. Our construction industry would be in shambles without them. Our tourism industry would fall apart. Our farmers… do I need to talk about the fact that undocumented workers pick ALL OUR FRUIT AND VEGETABLES? Our meat processing, manufacturing production, delivery drivers, all benefit from immigrants.

IF you look at demographics, you will see that the bulk of our American, non-immigrant population is older and getting older as the Baby Boomers start retiring. Remember they are the largest group of people in our history. So our average age is getting older and older. Who do you think does all the work in the low end of the wage scale in the above mentioned industries? Its younger, less experienced people and immigrants. Since we have less younger native born people, we need more immigrants. Japan, a country with a terrible immigration policy, is now suffering from lack of workers. They are so worried that they will grow old without enough people to take care of the elderly that they are investing billions in developing domestic robots to take care of the elderly. Seems like a reasonable solution? Switzerland and other countries in Europe are suffering the same fate, but we are not. Why? Because we have the much desired labor. An economy simply doesn’t work without enough labor.

I know it is annoying that there are so many people here without any legal papers. The solution, however, is not to deport them one-by-one… something that will NEVER happen. Or to make their lives miserable. It’s to open our immigration quotas to make migration in and out (and back to Latin America) easier. We need the people.

If your issue is the illegality, but not simply the ethnicity of the people, then surely you would be glad to open up the quotas to allow enough people in to fill the jobs that need filling? That’s where your energy should be spent, not on deporting, harassing and otherwise belittling the millions of honest, hard-working individuals who help drive our economy to be the powerhouse it is today.

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Mario

August 23rd, 2007 at 7:05 pm

You think they want to come up north to be the subject of raids, deportations and the vitriol of ignorant ill-informed xenophobes like yourself?

Wow JP, did you even come up for air? Let me ask you something, why is it that so many people like yourself seem to think that we should just open up our borders to anyone that wishes to come here? There has to be some control on the borders, that being said, for as much as it pains me to say it, I believe that President Bush had the right idea with his immigration bill.

Additionally, I have to admit that you made quite a few very valid points in your lengthy post. The strongest suit of the United States has always been the influx of immigrants, even though they have not always been welcomed them with open arms.

Personally have no problem with anyone that wants to come to America to work, by all means they should be welcomed, but not indiscriminately, there has to be some kind of screening process, like checking the perspective immigrant’s criminal record, requiring a clean bill of health from a doctor, and requiring some degree of mastery of the English language.

What irritates some people, right, wrong or indifferent, is the perception that many government entities (both at the local, state, and federal level) simply wink and nod at illegal immigrants. News stories of communities making Spanish a mandatory requirement for municipal jobs, the handing out of identification cards, automatically conferring American citizenship to the children of illegals, have received a lot of publicity of late and have created a great deal of acrimony.

Therefore, you are wrong too my friend. The xenophobic approach is wrong, but so is just opening the doors, that will eventually draw people to the United States that will contribute nothing but misery and give more ammunition to the xenophobes.

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JP R

August 24th, 2007 at 8:59 am

Mario. I couldn’t agree with you more on you point of not allowing in people indiscriminately. In fact, a hefty fee, a background check and references should be required. I would never suggest to “just open doors” without any accountability. I just believe that the current system is so restrictive that it only lets in a small percentage of the number of immigrants that are really needed in this country. If we had had the same quotas back in the 1900s during the immigration influx from Europe, we’d have turned back 90% of the people at Ellis Island. The process should be swift, efficient and the quotas should reflect the economic realities of the labor markets here in the US. Why do you think that big business is such a big proponent of legal immigration? Even the conservative CATO institute is pro-immigration and argue for more not less. We want, we need, we require, the labor force. In economics, labor and capital flows to where it is needed. People don’t immigrate to places that don’t have jobs readily available. Very few barriers can prevent that flow (e.g. the Berlin Wall) because it is human nature to seek the best for one’s family. When our public policy goes against our own economic well-being, we force people into an unfortunate situation.

The people who talk about “let’s just deport them all” are amazing to me because they are so cavalier about destroying the lives of so many honest, hardworking people. Many of the people they want to deport have been here for years, are part of their community, have raised their children here. I guarantee that if they met these people, got to know them, they would not wish for their harm. It is so easy to let our frustration dehumanize people so that they’re just “things” or “illegals” or some sort of scourge to be gotten rid of that we forget that they are human beings with families just like yours and mine. The punishment, in my opinion, does not fit the crime.

Unfortunately, humans seem to have an on-off switch when it comes to empathy for other humans, especially those they see as a threat for whatever reason. (e.g. Bosnia, Darfur, Somalia, the dirty wars of Argentina, Chile, Nazi Germany, etc.). I am not trying to say that our current anti-immigrant sentiment is like these other unfortunate episodes in our world history, but in each of those cases, a community was wrapped up in fear, paranoia and misunderstanding of the “unwanted” members of their population and that fear was exploited by darker forces.

Hola!

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