9:55 am By Jennifer Woodard Maderazo · Immigration|Justice
20 Aug 2007
Yesterday evening I told you that immigration activist mami, Elvira Arellano, has been arrested.This morning, Democracy Now! is reporting that it was indeed Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) that arrested Elvira outside a church in Los Angeles yesterday afternoon. The radio show also reported that Elvira had been deported and was currently in Tijuana.
Saul, her 8 year old son and U.S. citizen, received a hug and blessing from his mother before she was taken away.
Go ahead immigration haters rejoice.
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20 Responses to Elvira Arellano Update:Deported
Mike
August 20th, 2007 at 10:37 am
Elvira Arellano is an ILLEGAL immigrant. Her son was born in the US while she was an ILLEGAL immigrant. She chose to be in the US illegally when she gave birth. She chose to ILLEGALLY use someone else’s Social Security number so she could work in the US ILLEGALLY. Elvira Arellano created this mess, not the US.
Stephen
August 20th, 2007 at 10:58 am
This woman is an affront to all of the hard working LEGAL immigrants who have come into this country. Wait your turn and do it the right way and the government won’t come to take you back to “Your” country wherever that might be. She is typical of all of those ILLEGAL hispanic immigrants who think only of themselves and counter any rational argument condeming their ILLEGAL actions with the racist card.
Anonny
August 20th, 2007 at 12:10 pm
Why haven’t Hillary or Obama supported Elvira? Don’t they care about immigrants rights?
Mario
August 20th, 2007 at 12:32 pm
Elvira Arellano and Rosa Parks??? I don’t think so; with all due respect to me Arellano, she is a law breaker. I am somehow supposed to feel bad for her because she wants to stay with her US citizen son? Please, this is what really outrages me; because my wife is a legal Filipino immigrant, and because my son was born in the Philippines while I was on a six month deployment with the US Navy, he was not automatically a US citizen, like the son of Ms. Arellano who was only born in the USA because his mother is an illigal immigrant.
Give Ms. Arellano the boot; if she wants to stay with her son, she is perfectly welcome to take him back to Mexico with her. Why should my tax dollars pay for his education?
joanna
August 20th, 2007 at 1:31 pm
Hey Mike and Mario i’m getting a little tired of ur ignorance at least she has Bigger balls then both of you together cuz if u guys were in her shoes yall wouldnt of lasted so be quiet and stop being so damn ignorant
Nica Gee
August 20th, 2007 at 7:12 pm
Joanna, all we want is justice. We’re all tired of people breaking our laws under the guise of wanting a better life. You can’t just jump to the head of the line, steal into the country and steal someone else’s SSN because it will be better for YOU. So what.
I have no sympathy. My parents are immigrants and they have no sympathy. This has got to stop and I’m glad she’s been deported. I have no doubt that she’ll try to sneak back in.
Nica Gee
August 20th, 2007 at 7:19 pm
What I find so interesting is that I expected this site to be filled with her supporters’ remarks and instead I find more people supporting the lawful end.
Our cup has finally runneth over. The American public has reached it’s limit of what it can stomach and this is it.
Our schools are dismal, wages are stagnant, social services are strained, hospitals are closing. We’ve had it. The dam is about to burst.
No more sympathy here.
Daniel H.
August 20th, 2007 at 7:35 pm
Listen to the ICE guy talk about her as a “criminal fugitive alien” over and over…
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-deport21aug21,0,4648411.story?coll=la-home-local
Pissed.
Julia
August 21st, 2007 at 9:32 am
Do people really think the economic & social problems are due to “illegal” immigrants?? Not anything to do with government financial priorities being WAY off ( no social investment+obscene military spending). It seems SO convenient that all this anti-”immigrant” stuff has been stirred up at a time when the american public is fed up with the war in Iraq….As a distraction it seems to be working, sadlyy. The country would fall apart economically without “illegal” workers & even the hardcore republicans know it. The “his-panic” is hate mongering to a fearful public.
Besides we are all borne of immigrants, whether they came 10 years ago or 100….ask native indian americans whether that immigration was “legal”. Since many mexicans can claim native ancestry, the USA is technically “theirs” as much as “ours”, no?
Maegan la Mala
August 21st, 2007 at 9:54 am
Finally a voice of reason!!!!
Richard Hatten
August 21st, 2007 at 11:26 am
Each illegal knows that when they come here it is illegal. They know they can be deported and be separated from their family. They make that decision. They chose to take the risk of that. And how dare you criticize our government. The illegals are leaving their country because how bad it is.Their country could care less about them and their families. Instead of trying to fight our country to stay, why dont you do the same for the country they say they love. If you love your country so much, why dont you fight for it?
Mario
August 21st, 2007 at 12:24 pm
joanna ~ Monday, Aug 20 2007 | 13:31H:
Hey Mike and Mario i’m getting a little tired of ur ignorance at least she has Bigger balls then both of you together cuz if u guys were in her shoes yall wouldnt of lasted so be quiet and stop being so damn ignorant
Joanna,
First of all learn to write in English, second don’t tell me about balls, I wear this country’s uniform and I have seven rows of ribbons that attests to my balls. You have no idea at all what I have put up with; I stand by my previous statements, Ms. Arellano has broken the laws that I took an oath to defend. I also swore to protect your right to talk like the ignorant fool that you obviously are, because if you had actually read my post you would see that I have made a perfectly valid point.
Maria
August 21st, 2007 at 7:39 pm
Elvira,
do not believe the politicians should get involve with this mess you caused. First, you came into this Country illegally TWICE. Second, you had no sympathy on USA when you were going public and telling this Country what they should and should not do for you. Third, people in your defense should appoligize for comparing you to Rosa Parks. Ms. Parks, was never a criminal and she fought for EVERYONE’S CIVIL RIGHTS! The people who compared you to Ms. Parks, just fought for YOU and your Son’s Rights. Which only your son has for being born a citizen not you!
Finally, I feel sorry for the boy that has to be motherless because you refused to take him back with you to Mexico.
Dot
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:56 am
Julia, by your logic I ought to be able to sneak into Ireland and stake my claim there, expect social services for free, etc. Where do we draw the line? The entire Third World would like to live in the US – we can’t absorb that.
B. Ham
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:48 am
All of you people who invoke the “ask the Native Americans if it was legal immigration” are fools! Start living in the 21st century! We can’t go back in time and change the past, besides, if we did you wouldn’t have this great country to live in or this forum to spout your ridiculous ideas. Mrs. Arellano blatanty broke the laws of this country for years and now she’s paying the consequences. If she wanted to stay with her son then she should have A)taken him back to live LEGALLY in Mexico, or B)gone through the proper channels to gain her own legal citizenship. My father-in-law, who happens to be a LEGAL immigrant from Central America has no sympathy for her either. Wake up people! Why don’t all of you Arellano supporters go out and break laws in Mexico or some other country and see how much leniency you’re given. The American public is fed up! And Julia, it is not “hate mongering” that’s going on here, it’s the American people standing up to save this country before it becomes a hell-hole like Mexico! Please, do not try to tell me that illegal immigration is not one of the “real problems” here. There are entire neighborhoods here in Houston that look like third world countries. No one speaks English, and crime is rampant. I cannot tell you how many people I know who have been involved in auto accidents caused by illegals who have had to foot the bill for their car repairs because the person driving the other car had no insurance, no drivers license, or simply fled the scene. This may be only one of MANY problems that we have in our country today, but to say that it’s a distraction or cover-up for what’s really going on is dishonest. If all of the illegals who have organized in this country to engage in protests and marches would have done the same thing in their home countries maybe they could have effected a change there that would give people better lives. Personal responsibility, people. Individuals are responsible for themselves and their own actions so quit looking for a scapegoat. Elvira Arellano is responsible for her own actions, she is the only one to blame for the situation she’s in. I don’t think I’ve said anything here that is untrue or out of line, but I’m sure there are lots of people who don’t know me that will now call me a racist for the comments I’ve made. You can call me what you want, but I’m not a racist. I’m an American that cares about his country.
Luis Alcazar
August 23rd, 2007 at 6:54 pm
Some folks here obviously do not know how hard it is for some people to survive and get an education in a third-world country. Both of my perents are illegal immigrants as well. My father served in the military for 10+ years, which I would never do. They both became citizens after being here. And if it wasn’t for them I would not be a successful Mechanical Engineer with a degree from the most prestigious public institution in the world, UC Berkeley.
As for Elvira Arellano, I give her my support, for my mother would have done the same thing if she were in her situation. She came here illegally because the immigration system of our government has made it almost impossible to come in to the country legally, “like winning the lottery”, unless you are rich. She may have broken a law. However, there are many laws broken everyday that get ignored every day; like those rich folks smoking their cuban cigars, rich kids and celebritiesgetting away with all kinds of traffic violations, people of all ages sparking up illegal fireworks on 4th of July, people speeding on the way to work with no police around for miles and miles on the way to work through rich neighborhoods, which I see everyday, and the list goes on…And those worried about their tax dollars going to the children of illegal immigrants, why aren’t you worried about your money going to the military, who requires something as simple as a hammer being used to hang up a bulletin board to be hammer with a military specification, which is way more expensive than a regular hammer that could do the same job. This is just a simple example, out of many, of how the military uses our tax dollars for very unnecessary reasons. And if you are really worried about YOUR tax dollars, than why don’t you decide where they go? And as for welfare, immigrants are half as likely to get welfare as anyone else, whites account for most of the welfare aid given out, and Latinos, mostly Mexican, in CA, where I live, have the lowest welfare rates.
In regards to fighting in their country, many do fight; however, unlike here, it is much more difficult to fight for what is humanly right.
Mario, I do not know what you have put up with nor what your seven ribbons were for, but wearing the ‘U.S. uniform’ doesn’t mean you have balls. I know plenty of people who join the military for a bunch of sissy reasons. And are you going to defend every law there is? There are plenty of laws that are injust in this country, maybe not as many as others, but there are a good number of them. And for those that think that breaking any law is unjust, you are wrong.
Maria, you should realize that Elvira is not just fighting for herself and her son, she is making a stand for immigrant families who are going through similar problems. You may not realize it, but there are millions of people going through something similar as Elvira. So in this case she could be compared to the Latina Rosa Parks.
Maybe we can’t absorb al those that need help, but we could help those that are already here. And like B.Ham said, we can’t change the past. Those that are here, are here, so lets do what is humanly right and help those in need.
B.Ham, you are right we can’t live in the pas, so lets live in the present. And if you really consider Mexico to be a hell-hole, why do many U.S. citizens (not Amreicans,since Amercicans are from all over America, not just the U.S.), like myself, enjoy the beauties of Mexico everyday of the year? And many move there. The difference is that Mexico has a much larger gap between the rich and the poor. And those on the rich side are no trying to come over. However, if they were, the U.S. would welcome them with open arms. And you speak about all those crimes and accidents that happen in Houston. These happen everywhere and US citizens are involved in all of these crimes and accidents everyday! And, the people we are defending here are not these criminals, but families that are doing everything humanly right to survive in their given situations. And yes I would use a fake social security number to work hard, as most immigrants do, to feed my family and myself! And if Elvira was looking for a quick scapegoat, she wouldn’t have spoken out and fought for all immigrants. She could have stayed quiet, and if deported, just came right back and continued as she was. And yes you did mention things that were untrue and out of line, and I do consider you a racist for the comment ‘hell-hole like Mexico’. Finally, if your father-in-law doesn’t support Elvira, he either has deep pockets, or he just doesn’t understand the immigrant struggle.
These are my opinions and I fully support what Elvira and Familia Latina Unida are doing for immigrant rights!
Maria
August 23rd, 2007 at 9:27 pm
Luis,
maybe in YOUR EYES Elvira can be compared to Ms. Parks. To others that are wanting to finally get something done with immigrants flowing in USA ILLEGALLY we have are opinion. I truly believe if our opinion was not positive enough, Congress WOULD of allowed some type of AMNESTY.
On the other hand, many of people are going through the same problems as Elvira, however what about thoses who went through the process LEGALLY? If Elvira really wanted to be in this country badly enough she would of went through the process just like millions do who wait in line.
Mario
August 24th, 2007 at 2:49 pm
Mario, I do not know what you have put up with nor what your seven ribbons were for, but wearing the ‘U.S. uniform’ doesn’t mean you have balls. I know plenty of people who join the military for a bunch of sissy reasons. And are you going to defend every law there is? There are plenty of laws that are injust in this country, maybe not as many as others, but there are a good number of them. And for those that think that breaking any law is unjust, you are wrong.
Louis, my friend you are going off half cocked. First of all, please do not put words in my mouth, I never made a case against responsible civil disobedience, but I have to respectfully disagree with you, Ms. Arellano is simply a law breaker, we are not talking the Prohibition here, nor are we talking about the laws that used to justify slavery, we are talking about maintaining control of our borders. Did you know that one of the contributing factors that led to demise of the Roman Empire was that they lost control of their borders?
If you disagree with the immigration laws that we have on the books, write to your senator, your congressman, start a petition, take action, but of the legal variety.
You are right, just because I wear a uniform does not mean that I have balls, nor does it mean that I defend every law that we have on the books, but since our country’s military has been firmly subordinated to civilian authority since George Washington was the commanding general of Continental Army, when I take exception to a law, I do it legally by voting.
The bottom line is that Elvira Arellano has broken the immigration law, which is why she was arrested and deported. Additionally my friend, there is nothing that you can say that will convince me that it is fair and just to confer American citizenship automatically to the child of an illegal immigrant, especially after the trouble that I had to go through to ensure that my son had his citizenship, or that my tax dollars should foot the education bill for the child of an illegal; charity begins at home my friend.
I also think that the comment that you made about not wanting to serve in the military is regrettable. One of the things that all four branches of the military teach their members is responsible citizenship and ethics, and it seems to me that those are subjects that UC Berkeley either did not offer, or that you simply failed to attend.
By the way you should pay more attention, I said that I have seven rows of ribbons, that’s 21 altogether.
B. Ham
August 24th, 2007 at 5:30 pm
Luis,
Let’s get a couple of things straight here. First, I’d like to give you the definition of a racist from the American Heritage Dictionary as follows:
“The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
Discrimination or prejudice based on race.”
No where in my last post did I demean any race of people or propose the idea that one race is superior to another. Nor did I state that Mexico or any other Latin American country lacks natural beauty or desireable qualities. That being said, the fact that Mexico is ruled by a government and law enforcement system that is so fraught with corruption that it keeps a huge portion of it’s population living in abject poverty qualifies it as a “hell-hole” in my book. If it were not so, then why would millions of people come here illegally for a “better life?”
I also did not imply that illegals are the only people in this country that commit crimes. What I did state is that the areas primarily inhabited by illegal populations here in Houston are some of the worst neighborhoods in the city. In part, because many of the people who live there live in poverty due to the fact that they do not speak English and are forced to take low-paying jobs, and in part because corruption and crime are rampant in these areas.
I also find it amazing that you presume to know my father-in-law’s financial situation based on his stance on illegal immigration. My father-in-law is a pastor. Not particularly a high paying profession. On top of that, he pastors a Spanish-speaking congregation. He encourages and helps those members of his congregation who don’t have legal status to attain it. He also helps them to learn English so they can assimilate into American society. What exactly have you done recently to aid the people whose plight you care so passionately about? How dare you presume that he doesn’t understand the issues that illegals face! He immigrated here LEGALLY from Guatemala when he was 18 years old. Four of his friends who applied for citizenship at the same time were denied. He came to this country legally, learned English, went to college and became a productive citizen of the United States of America. He embodies everything that that makes this country great. It really makes me angry that someone who admittedly would break laws, steal a social security number to be exact, for his own benefit would accuse someone like my father-in-law of not understanding the issues that illegals face!
You attempt to cast a negative light on the U.S. in statements like “And those on the rich side are no trying to come over. However, if they were, the U.S. would welcome them with open arms.” I think it might be homework time for some people on what the immigration policies of MANY other countries are regarding one’s education level and financial status, including Mexico’s. Most nations won’t allow you to immigrate to their country unless you can provide proof that you will be a highly contributing member of their society (i.e. you can proove that you have a good-paying job, will be investing large amounts of money, etc). Mexico is one of those countries. Not just any ol’ U.S. citizen gets to waltz into Mexico and take up residence. I also understand that Mexico is extremely strict on their immigration policies, subjecting immigrants from Honduras, Nicaragua, Guatemala, etc. to immediate deportation or imprisonment. A complete double standard!
Now, let’s apply your logic in the statement “She came here illegally because the immigration system of our government has made it almost impossible to come in to the country legally…” So, her coming here illegally is justified by the difficulty of entering the country legally. Hmmmm. Now I would never compare the life I live to the lives of the people who are coming here illegally, but let’s give this a shot. *I’ve got a decent life, but what if I could have a better one. I’d like to provide more for my family. All it would require would be breaking a few laws, and besides, it’s so difficult to get ahead in todays workforce. I mean, all I really want to do is work hard and provide good things for my family. So what’s the harm? Steal someone’s SSN so I can get a home mortgage, decide that the cost of carrying at least liability insurance on my vehicle is just too high. Let’s see, I won’t be paying taxes either, but my kids are going to attend public schools. Hmmm, oh well, some rich person’s taxes should just be able to cover that expense. I mean, I’ll be paying sales tax, right?* Ok, so I may have exaggerated a little bit. I did so to prove a point. Luis, by taking an ends justify the means approach to life, what is there that would keep people from any segment of society deciding that they are not satisfied with their situation and trampling the rule of law to improve their lives? It’s like telling someone when a burglar enters their house that the burglar is less fortunate than they are and that he really just wants to work hard and have a good life, but he needs to take a few of your things to do so. Would you agree to that? I doubt it.
The fact is, and will always be that you, I, and everyone else in this world are responsible for their own actions. We all have the power to choose how to live our lives every day. The people who CHOOSE to enter this country illegally know the pitfalls and should face the consequences for their actions. Period! I have to face the consequences of my actions every day! The problem is that there is a large portion of society that feels that it’s the government’s job to give them everything and that there are poor, helpless people among us who really can’t help the fact that they broke some laws to get ahead.
Like I said in my last post, there are lots of problems in this country as well as others. Luis, you gave some great examples in your post, but I’m not addressing those problems in this forum. I’m addressing the issue of illegal immigration with which there are many problems! Problems like the disproportionate number of drunk driving fatalities that are caused by illegals who should have been deported years ago. Just to clarify, I’m not implying that only illegals drive drunk. In these cases you are talking about lives that were taken by people who legally should not be here. People who might still be alive today were the law of our country enforced. Problems such as sanctuary cities like the one I live in where illegals are given a free pass by law enforcement while citizens are held to a higher standard. Problems like people organizing and having rallies demanding rights from a country that owes them nothing, and flying the flag of a foreign nation while they’re doing it! Problems like hospitals in Texas and California closing their doors because their emergency rooms are filled with illegals who, by law, they have to treat, that never pay their bills.
I have a hard time believing that if I fell on hard times and happened to steal your identity in order make a better life for me and my family that you would say that I was just “doing everything humanly right to survive in their given situations.” I also have a hard time believing that anything I’ve said will change your mind, but maybe someone here will read it and see the logic in it.
B. Ham
August 24th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
Well said, Mario! Thanks for your service.