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carlos vives??? who????

Dissagree....porque Carlos se tiene que poner a criticar la carrera de otras personas?...que se preocupe por su carrera and period!..el ya no es el unico artista internacional de Colombia.

Who is he? Shakira has made crossover hits in the U.S in both english and Spanish. From her first U.S release album i heard about that girl. Her 1996 album was played in the U.S in heavy rotation. in 1998 her other album had such great club hits like OJOS ASI that was played world wide. After her english album shakira just became a world artist, not just a latin artist. Shakira is also helping people outside of Colombia, i think its a shame of that guy Vives to talk about Shakira. When was the last time, he did something for he's people. To help poor children and children with aids.

I have mixed feelings. I agree with Mala in that Shak's English language work can't hold a candle to her Spanish stuff. And there has to be an element of pressure to cross over to become more famous and more rich. On the other hand, it sounds like Carlos is jealous. If he hasn't crossed over it's because his music doesn't have the mass appeal that Shakira's does. He's a vallenato artist which is the equivalent of being Los Tigres del Norte: you become respected in your genre but it would be absurd to suddenly start singing in English. And if Juanes doesn't cross over its because of his personal convictions and that's his business.

Además, Shakira honra a su país alzando el nombre de Colombia en el mundo angloparlante, which is always positive.

On the coast of Colombia, Carlos Vives is a hero. In Cartagena, Barranquilla, and Santa Marta, he is without a doubt one of the most popular and influential artists, in giving the regional music Vallenato an appeal to not just all of Colombia but an international audience as well. In criticising Shakira he is not just expressing his own view, he is actually expressing the sentiment of many costenas. Shakira, from Barranquilla, now speaks Spanish with an Argentinian accent, lives in Miami, rarely visits Colombia, and sings in English. Is it any wonder she is considered a sellout?

I disagree that English language work of latino artists is of lesser quality than their Spanish songs. For example, two albums that were released this week: Jennifer Lopez does a Spanish album, and it sucks bigtime (imho). Juan Luis Guerra does an album with some English songs, and it sounds great. I think the English songs can serve to let the whole world get to know the work of that artist (see Shakira, her Spanish albums sell worldwide since she's singing in English).

Though I have to admit Spanish just sounds a lot better, the language is a lot more beautiful. And you don't need to understand music to appreciate it, of course.

An informal poll of Barranquillanos, with a median of 5% error, 90% would prefer to:
Live in Miami
Have an Argentine Accent
And sing in English
Be Rich and Famous

Certain individuals always label someone a sellout when they become successfull... Is it because they are lacking in their own lives and desires??? Who knows... Even though her English is not as strong as her Spanish, she still writes very moving and entertaining songs in the language. Instead of marking her as a sellout, he should be thanking her for bringing Colombian/Latin music into the forefront in the US, Europe, and Asia. Not only is Shakira an incredibly talented musician, she has a heart of gold. She has been helping her country since she has been a teenager and continues to do so. Carlos and others who agree with him should focus on their own music instead of grabbing some spotlight by criticizing one of the modern-day gems of the art of music.

As much as they're artists, this is also a career, and the way they make a living. Personally, I like Shakira since back in the day, I still think her Spanish work is far better than in English, but just the fact that she writes her own songs in a second language and broke into the anglo market is quite an acomplishment (same as having to make people of some countries figure out where Colombia is in the map). She signs pop music which lends itself to be played with, translated, have fun with.

I'm not sure if broadening one's horizons and having different goals turns someone into a sell out. If Vives doesn't want to sing in English, great, there's a market for that... if Shakira can get to two different markets by being bilingual, also great. It doesn't make one better than the other as far as I can tell.

If it were my career, most likely I'd do my best to grow, learn new things, set and reach goals as I see fit. If speaking with a certain accent or living in a certain place in the world turns me into a bad person, then I'm missing something. I'M A SELL OUT MYSELF!!!! Boooo hooooo!

first she speaks with an argentine accent bacause her bf is from there, what can you expect she spends all the time with him. it's like madonna being blamed for having a british accent her husband is british she lives in england of course she gonna grow accostumed to the dialect same thing with shaki. i love her the fact that vives would call her a sell-out is crazy she always brings colombia in her heart i've been to her concerts yes that's plural and she always greats her gente first. she made the whole world want to speak spanish the song says it. her hips don't lie. neither do the album sales i love you sahki keep being a sell-out if that's what it takes to be great people will always be there to criticize you and put you down they never talk about the good things people do.

Carlos Vives is just being spiteful. Shakira is far from a sell out. In fact, she's broken so many boundaries ("La Tortura" was a huge global hit, #5 song worldwide of 2005 to be exact).

Now she's currently pulling off a 100+ show worldwide tour, and the greater part of the show features her classic Spanish hits such as "Ciega Sordomuda", "Estoy Aqui", "Pies Descalzos Suenos Blancos", "Si Te Vas", "Ojos Asi", "Antologia", "La Tortura", "No", and "Dia De Enero". And she's not changing her set list to suit the Anglo world from the spanish speaking world. She's opened EVERY concert of this tour, whether in Egypt to 80,000 people or Germany, with "Estoy Aqui", an unprecedented decision by an artist of Shakira's magnitude.

In fact, that should be enough to show that Shakira still genuinely cares about her Spanish side when she is willing to sing a Spanish heavy set list at EVERY location she performs at, even if they have yet to hear her older Spanish songs.

Carlos Vives would jump at the opportunity to work with Shakira. With this comment of his, I hope she refuses to collaborate with him. Shakira is an accomplished multi-Grammy and multi-Latin Grammy winning artist. Carlos Vives' opinion is of no importance.

shakira is the most important latin artist ever and carlos is amazing too, but i think his comments were missunderstood they are friends and for the person that says carlos opinion is not important, well you should know carlos vives has a GRAMMY and latin Grammys just like shakira.

first of all SHAKIRA'S ACCENT IS MORE COLOMBIAN THAN ANYTHING in the world, she has broken barriers in spanish with her Colombian music, I don't see why he would say such a comment but anyways SHAKIRA WILL ALWAYS BE OUR COLOMBIAN POP/ROCK QUEEN!

She ALWAYS DEDICATES EVERY AWARD SHE WINS TO COLOMBIA and I am sure ALL Colombians LOVE HERRRR

well I love them both and have seen both in El Salvador, where we have many concerts at the fairgrounds, weekly. i understand somewhat what and why he said that, but his remarks are NOT warranted. Colombian pride is large and long
Viva Colombia, the best country for me, but....
we have better waves for surfing in El Salvador. hahaha, lol
so what, Carlos, learn some english and maybe sing your great words in English so more folks can hope to understand the Colombian peoples
I also saw Toto in concert, singing in English, i was one of few that understood the words, and most wondered why I was crying a bit to be in Thalian Hall and hearing her sing
a great experience
but love Vallenato and hey Carlos..
got a pic and mention of you on my web site www.tropicooltours.com
maybe i should replace it with one of Shakira
she is excellent, .....also

I think in a globalized world- people should respect their identity! Both artists are excellent communicators and both artists have appeal to masses in many parts of the world.
Both artists can fill an arena in miami and in any part of Latin America. But whats the difference of standing out for a country- we should learn that there are no boundaries in the world- nor flags- and hey flags just bring wars and fake ideologies behind. If she goes to Ecuador or to Chile or to London- does she have to be stating that she is from Colombia? Why not state that she is just another human being in this world- or does that mean anything?

Good point, Jack. Shakira shouldn't feel the need to constantly show her pride for Colombia, to defend herself. She should have the right to be just a human being born into this world who wants and loves to make music. Too bad if it's not strictly Colombian music or in Spanish. To stand for your country is one thing, but to let your country bind you is another thing. Shakira shows her pride of her hometown and roots, but she isn't bound by them, she doesn't simply have to do things for the sake of 24/7 representing Colombia or seeking approval.

She's a gifted girl. If she one day decides to make Rock music in German, there will be nothing to stop her. And it should be like that. She's known for breaking boundaries and language barriers. Carlos Vives and his comment won't change that.

Carlos Vives is getting jealous of Shakira?!?

But honestly, come on! 11 out of the 17 songs she preformed in her Oral Fixation Tour venue in Miami, were in Spanish. And it's not like she's completely left Colombia and adopted the United States wholeheartedly as her new home. She already had enormous success before she began singing in English.

Carlos Vives should be supportive and proud of Shakira because she, like him, is Colombian and she has been so successful in breaking barriers (La Tortura was one of the few enitrely Spanish songs played on American radio and probably the most successful too).

I love Shakira. Forever.

I think "Hips Don't Lie" (lyrically speaking) is one of the stupidest songs to every break so many records. It truly is the lowest common demoninator (although My Humps is worse). When I hear Shakira perform this song live- the strangled goat sound of her voice reminds me that while she can really shake it (boring boring boring) her voice leaves much to be desired and the lyrics are painfully dull. For someone who profeses to have such a high IQ- I would say her quest and lust for fame and glory are much higher.

I just came across this thread. I am a white male, born and raised in the United States. While I do like Shakira, quite a bit, she is a pop artist. When I first heard Carlos Vives, I was blown away by the happiness of the music. I prefer him to almost any other music at this point. Although the other artist he mentions, Juanes, would be a close second.

To all those above that have never heard of Carlos Vives, or Juanes, do yourselves a musical favor and pick up there cd or download there music. I promise you will not be disappointed. And then add them to a mix with Shakira if you so choose...;)

Mickey? Why do you feel the need to state that you are white? Are you one of those uneducated people who think that Latin Americans can't be white. Shakira is white too. Of Lebanese and Italian decent. Why are you stating your race? thats rediculous. This Carlos guy is jelous. End of story.

Carlos Vives is not jealous. If she wants to cross over fine i do think she's selling out a bit. How many colombian songs has any one heard of hers? I remember she even sang a vallenato song. Her songs are losing Colombian flavor but it's what the public wants because lets face it... they are not Colombian. I'm all for new ruthms and beat but when it hits the fan I'd rather listen to vallenato,cumbia,mapale,merecumbe,san juanero, and what else colombia has. Sorry Shakira... with Carlos Vives on this one.

If it is no longer about the music... she's a sellout.

If she's distanced herself from her roots... she's a sellout.

Bueno Shakira, no solo kiere que la gente que habla espanol escuche su musica, si no tambien la gente k habla ingles. es mas esto ella lo hace para k la gente de U.S. escuche tambien su mucia, en cual yo estoy muy contento, por k para nosotros los latinos que vivimos en U.S. estamos de acuerdo por k hablamos mas ingles, pero tambien espanol. Shakira me encantn tus cds en cualquier idioma.

I admire Carlos Vives and love his music. He is one of our most beloved stars and musicians in Colombia. I think that he should keep those kind of comments to himself. It makes him sound spiteful, which I'm sure he's not.
I think it's a personal decision.
Sure, Shakira probably makes more money singing in English and it's more "marketable" in the U.S. and around the world. English is the "international language" you know? Should Spanish become even more important around the world? I think so--more than twenty countries speak it but that doesn't mean it should fall on the backs of "cross-over" artists.
I think what Shakira has done is great for her own personal success and for Colombia's image around the world. She brings something positive to so many misconceptions about Colombia.
Are there Colombians who resent her? Of course there are. Some agree with Carlos Vives and some may simply be jealous. That's a valid feeling but all I'm saying is she has done great things promoting Colombia and the passion we Colombians have for our country by singing in English. She may not have been able to do so if she had stuck with Spanish. Her career was solid in Latin America and Spain but her English helped her expand to North America, Europe, Asia, the Middle East, and throughout the world.
As for Juanes, I applaud his personal decision to sing in Spanish and love hearing his music en español but that does not make me think Shakira is a "sellout" as some describe it.
To each his own, I guess.
We'll see what happens with Juanes with Anglo audiences. He has actually penetrated the European and Asian markets but is still widely unknown to most Americans. We'll see what happens.
Let's not hate one another and support everything positive that Latinos do here in the U.S., in Latin America, and abroad.

I absolutely love both of them. However, I have to side with Carlos on this one. Carlos is SOO AMAZING! and he hasn't had to do a single thing that can be considered selling out. Shakira does every classic sellout move. From paint commercials to shampoo ads, its ridiculous. She should stick more to the music and more to her country. Carlos represents colombia wherever he goes, and is a wonderful national icon. Some people don't even know where shakira is from...and that's not a good sign.