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Thu17Aug2006

Elvira Arellano : Illegal, Alien, Activist?

09:00 H | Topics: Chicago - Controversia - Immigration - Justice

elvira.jpgBy now you should know that 31 year old single Mexican mami Elvira Arellano has been inside Aldalberto United Methodist Church in Chicago with her 7 year old son for three days now. She is not keeping her promise to a santo. she is keeping her promise to her child that she will stay with him and be a mami and confronting the U.S. government that seeks to deport her. Her son Saul was born in the United States and because of that is a U.S. citizen. Earlier this week Elvira was ordered to appear at an immigration office but instead she invoked an old school idea, taken by many activists before her, that churches are sanctuaries and went inside with her child. Elvira knows what's up. She's the President of United Latino Family, which lobbies for families that could be split by deportation. She is now one of those families.

The Feds have said that Elvira being inside a church doesn't really protect her and that they could go inside the church at any time to enforce their deportation order. We will all have to wait and see if they will dare. In the meantime however, it is interesting to analyze the different ways the media is covering the going ons, especially the English language media. Many have chosen to use the adjective "illegal" to modify Elvira. The Washington Times goes so far as to call Elvira an "Illegal Alien" in it's headline. Two news outlets, KVOA News 4 out of Arizona and the Chicago Sun-Times, focus not on Elvira the woman but on her actions, calling her an "activist". Spanish language media chooses to call her undocumented, label her by her nationality, or her maternal status (no doubt invoking a linkage between her and the ultimate mujer to many Latinos - la Virgincita herself).

Regardless of what adjective is used to label Elvira Arellano, all eyes should be on Chicago and those that are in the Chicago area should say presente to bear witness to what's going down and what will come.

Via / SignOnSanDiego.com
Image Via / BBC Mundo

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1. Jennifer Woodard Maderazo ~ Thursday, Aug 17 2006 | 11:32H:

I heard her liken herself to Rosa Parks on Maria Celeste the other night.

2. Maegan la Mala ~ Thursday, Aug 17 2006 | 14:33H:

Really? I missed that. That's an interesting angle. I mean she is committing an act of civil disobediance and risking her freedom so it's not such a far fetched comparison.

3. Jennifer Woodard Maderazo ~ Thursday, Aug 17 2006 | 18:17H:

I thought it was a fair comparison too, just weird coming out of her own mouth.

4. Digger ~ Friday, Aug 18 2006 | 03:05H:

Yes, it's an interesting angle until you remember that Rosa Parks was a US citizen and had rights under the US constitution as a citizen

She doesn't have a leg to stand on. Deported several times, convicted of Social Security fraud... and now legally a fugitive from justice.

5. LEGAL immigrant ~ Saturday, Aug 19 2006 | 12:22H:

She crosses the border illegally, shoots out an anchor-baby, and then uses it as leverage against being deported again...the 14th amendment was not intended for this misuse. The only one forcing the separation of the mother and son here is HER, there is NOTHING stopping him going to Mexico with his illegal alien mother.

6. Geno Ruz ~ Saturday, Aug 19 2006 | 14:38H:

As an immigrant to this country, it would have NEVER occurred me to enter the US illegally. Now, why are so many illegal aliens making such a fuss about their illegal status? They remain such: illegal aliens. If anyone is interested in immigrating into ANY nation, they should try and use the legal channels first. Try immigrating illegally to, say, China. You may get shot, imprisoned, or deported on the spot. The impossition of illegal aliens into the US society is apalling. Imagine someone braking into your house, seizing the couch, and then demanding the bedroom. How would YOU feel?

7. Colin MacDonald ~ Saturday, Aug 19 2006 | 14:46H:

She is hurting her son and showing great disrespect to the United States. She should have worked on getting her citizenship over the last seven years, or at least made some progress. It bothers me that she is spending so much time and energy on getting around the system and doing so with disregard for the Law. She is wrong and yet will not accept that. What message is this sending to her son? What will he believe he can get away with when he grows up. There are many laws that people disagree with but they are Laws. It is not something you can just decide not to obey if you do not feel like it. If she were an american illegaly in Mexico attempting this what would happen to her?

8. LEGAL American ~ Saturday, Aug 19 2006 | 16:08H:

The hispanic female has twice before entered my country illegaly and was also convicted of using a stolen social security number. She is as arrogant and self serving as she is ILLEGAL. Since she is an ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADER to the United States at least three times to date, her son is not legel either since she only had him to beat the laws. They both should be removed from the church immediately, have GPS tracking devices implanted in their bodies, then sent back to their country of origin. ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS - radical militants or otherwise - will be dealt with by the real and legal Americans if our laws and politicians do not deal with them to get them out and keep them out. Real Americans are realizing the arrogance and the threat Illegals bring and there is growing anger toward ILLEGALS entering the U.S.from any country.

9. Dave ~ Sunday, Aug 20 2006 | 21:24H:

She has been deported once, stole somebody’s identity, and turned around and entered again illegally. She has had since 1997 to make it right and not only has flaunted our laws, but also has refused to assimilate by learning English. Any politician that supports her and others like her should be voted out of office and any employer that hires her and her 11 million+ criminal brothers and sisters should be thrown in prison. If you are going to live here, then get into the system and pay your way like the rest of us. And for Gods sake learn the language of this country. The Hispanic community should hang its head in shame by not encouraging these people to do the right thing. You want to stand up for your rights then get into the system and make those employers pay you a decent wage, pay for social security, health insurance, and workers comp. Get legal and I will welcome you with open arms. Geez I can’t be the only one that is fed up with the hypocrisy of a government that refuses to enforce its own laws-it sure is not what I fought for as a veteran. Oh…for all of you young males and females that are currently illegal, how about joining the military and showing us just what you are willing to do for America-8 years and you can earn that citizenship and along the way earn your own social security number instead of stealing it from a legitimate citizen.

10. Tricia ~ Monday, Aug 21 2006 | 04:40H:

Sounds like you refuse to learn English too... "she's flaunted our laws"...what the hell does that mean? Look it up, idiot.

11. Binky ~ Monday, Aug 21 2006 | 10:53H:

Where is the child's father? Is he a deadbeat dad or is he paying child support?

12. Paul ~ Monday, Aug 21 2006 | 11:24H:

To #6:

There is only one "radical militant" here sir, and you have only to look in the mirror to find him.

13. J.Almendariz ~ Monday, Aug 21 2006 | 12:55H:

Are we a nation of laws? Or are we not?

Certain people believe that they are above the law...that they have the right to ignore our laws when it becomes convenient for them? They pick and choose those laws that benefit them and ignore the ones that don't. They have no problem with obtaining--free education, free healthcare which was paid for through hard-earned taxpayer monies.

They justify their actions under the guise of need. Everything is prefaced by "me", "what I need", "what I want", "what is good for me." "Everyone owes me a living."

Well, my parents came here legally. They waited their turn. They pay their taxes and my dad has an American flag flying in his backyard.

We are sick and tired of hearing from law breakers who demand their rights --AND--want to be placed at the head of the line. These people do not pay into the social system that they are currently bankrupting. Even the illegals that do pay some social security taxes--that amount does not even come close to offsetting the cost of their social services to LEGAL AMERICAN TAXPAYERS.

Finally, I am sick and tired of so-called religious organizations that break the law as well. One of the best things that our founding fathers did...was separate church from state. Thereby avoiding the abuses that occurred in Europe and elsewhere.

This woman is a lawbreaker--SHE IS NOT AN ACTIVIST. She can't be compared with Rosa Parks who was fighting UNJUST LAWS. She just doesn't want to obey any laws.

We don't need her here. She will not be a benefit to the US. Her personal ethics and morality are suspect. The church she belongs to is also suspect.

Rice University estimates that cost to be $11,000 per year per American. These people are putting my children into debt.

The Senate bill S.2611 and the Hutchison-Pence Bill are an abomination. You should read them. I have. My parents worked hard and long to attain the "American Dream." Nobody gave them a free ride.

These ill-conceived bills benefit only BIG BUSINESS, LABOR UNIONS, and RELIGION at the cost of our middle class. If implemented they will allow vast numbers of low-skilled workers (60-100 million) into the country. There will be downward pressure on salaries & benefits so that number of poor will increase. Currently the middle class in the US is decreasing as well.

Oddly enough, hispanics who now live in the US now will be forced to compete with all these new millions and it is estimated that their standard of living will go downward as a result of the Senate bills.

14. Maegan la Mala ~ Monday, Aug 21 2006 | 13:28H:

Actually the most recent studies show that immigrants do not impact the standards of living for citizens (just last week we posted some information regarding that). Additionally what or better who gets to determine what makes a law just versus unjust. Certainly during the age of legalized segregation - many felt those laws were just.

15. leslie ~ Monday, Aug 21 2006 | 18:53H:

We will be praying for them.We cannot separate families.I also have 2 american children but the oldest cannot return to US because hes chilean and Immigration found he was studiyng here without a visa. He's only 12, but he had to lost his family, friends and innocence for one ridiculous paper. Please contact your Representative for a petition of a soon Comprenhensive Reform

16. Dave ~ Monday, Aug 21 2006 | 23:39H:

Tricia ~ Monday, Aug 21 2006 | 04:40H:

Sounds like you refuse to learn English too... "she's flaunted our laws"...what the hell does that mean? Look it up, idiot.

Ok...flouted...since when does a simple a grammatical error warrant the accusation that I have refused to learn English? This certainly does not merit the status of an idiot. You just taught me something...how about passing that lesson on about 11 million more times. You obviously have missed the point and have not contributed anything to this dialogue. Even when we are angry at each other we still need to look for solutions...

17. Dave ~ Tuesday, Aug 22 2006 | 00:01H:

From Maegan la Mala Monday, Aug 21 2006 | 13:28H:

"Actually the most recent studies show that immigrants do not impact the standards of living for citizens."

We are not talking about immigrants. We are talking about illegal immigrants. I am willing to pay my share to help get these folks in the system. This is an example of the studies out there:

http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalrelease.html

I think this is bunk and as much as illegal immigrants "flouting" our laws makes me angry, I am just as angry with a hypocritical government that refuses to enforce its own laws and is content at creating a new slave class. Again: stand up for your rights...get into the system...make those employers pay you a decent wage, pay for social security, health insurance, and workers comp. The economy will adjust.

18. Paul ~ Tuesday, Aug 22 2006 | 14:53H:

"Eighty-five percent of eminent economists surveyed have concluded that undocumented immigrants have had a positive (seventy-four percent) or neutral (eleven percent) impact on the U.S. economy."

"Generally, the only benefits federally required for undocumented immigrants are emergency medical care, subject to financial and category eligibility, and elementary and secondary public education. Many undocumented immigrants will not even access these few critical government services because of their ever-present fear of government officials and deportation."

"Despite their net positive contribution to public coffers, hundreds of thousands of immigrants enter the U.S. each year without documents because of impracticable quota and labor certification requirements."

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=881584

19. Dave ~ Wednesday, Aug 23 2006 | 21:06H:

Well in closing...here is the cost of that positive economic impact:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty71.htm

"Finally, this new slave class reveals the immoral and unethical greed of our highest officials from governors and mayors in every corner of America all the way to the presidency as well as corporate heads--descending all the way to the tiniest businesses—such as restaurants, hotels, roofing contractors, paving companies, construction concerns, landscaping and private citizens who hire illegal slaves. In the end, we all pay for exploiting other human beings for profit or ill-gotten gain. If we didn’t learn from the trauma of civil war in 1865, must we learn again?"

20. Paul Cooling ~ Wednesday, Aug 30 2006 | 19:07H:

Well how nice...

Break the laws of this country and become a folk hero.

21. Maegan la Mala ~ Thursday, Aug 31 2006 | 08:39H:

Why "folk" hero?

22. Bozo The Clown ~ Monday, Sep 04 2006 | 02:06H:

You're going to jail Elvira. You yourself have brought this upon yourself. No one else. Nobody is being unfair about it. You were given a judges order and you ignored it. Why did you even bother showing up for court you stupid bitch if you're going to ignore the court order anyway???

They made a special website for you Elvira.
http://www.JailForElvira.com

It says it all.

Now see what they've made you do. I think Elvira, that the only way to come clean out of this one is to come to the media and tell us who (what politicians) and what are making you do this?

23. JC ~ Friday, Sep 08 2006 | 09:06H:

To Tricia at #10:

You look it up "dummy".

flaunt\vb. Scand origin; 1: to display or obtrude oneself to public notice, to display obesentatiously or impudently.

from Meriam Webster's Dictionary

Also found: Tricia: dummy who accuses others of being idiots. One who is too stupid to look up words but accuses others of not doing the one thing she's supposed to do in the first place.

24. contessa ~ Saturday, Sep 09 2006 | 14:20H:

Elvira is quite an example of a self-serving, self-promoting, irresponsible mother. Good case for birth control.
The laws are not unfair. The U.S. allows over one million LEGAL immigrants per year, and there are over 79 types of visas that one can apply for to get into the U.s. legaly. Obviously, that's not good enough, fast enough or easy enough for millions of uneducated, unskilled, poor from Mexico. But, too bad. Elvira is no better and doesn't deserve any more "special treatment". My parents had the moral decency to immigrate here legally and so have millions of others despite wait, the costs, and all the requirements. Elvira es una sin verguenza. She'll be in jail soon enough where she belongs.

25. rodolfo ~ Thursday, Sep 14 2006 | 10:53H:

I say let's keep Elvira Arellano around for awhile longer and by all means, DO ALLOW her to be the poster child for the 11 million plus illegal aliens who reside and work in the U.S.

As we already know:

• Elvira Arellano, in her first attempt to illegally sneak into the U.S., was soon caught and deported.

• Elvira Arellano in her second attempt to illegally sneak into the U.S., was this time successful, though her initial illegal entry and deportation made her ineligible for reentry into the U.S.

• Elvira Arellano had never bothered to apply for a U.S. visa, not even a working visa, but yet was able to reap seven years worth of benefits from being in the U.S.

• Elvira Arellano has every intention of reaping many more years worth of benefits.

• Elvira Arellano has been in the U.S. for seven years and has yet to even begin learning English.

• Elvira Arellano decided that because she believes that she has the right to stay and work in the U.S., she can defy our government and claim sanctuary from deportation by hiding in a church.

• Elvira Arellano claims that her deportation will separate her from her child, though there is nothing that is stopping her from taking her child with her to Mexico.

• Elvira Arellano claims that separating her from her child is inhumane but has said "she is willing to sit in jail for 20 years." if needed.

• Elvira Arellano founded United Latino Families in order to spotlight the similar plights of illegal immigrant families like hers.

The list goes on.

I say, do allow Elvira Arellano to represent the 11 million plus illegal aliens in the U.S. and let the progress of her chosen situation be heard loud and clear; understood without question; and be known to U.S. citizens and illegal aliens alike. Elvira Arellano has chosen to be the poster child in defense for illegal aliens in the U.S., but in actuality, Elvira Arellano is the poster child FOR WHY WE HAVE immigration policies in the first place. If the U.S. government doesn’t uphold current immigration policy and deport her under the conditions that she has chosen to come in, then U.S. immigration policy does not exist. I say allow Elvira Arellano to represent the 11 million plus illegal aliens in the U.S. for a little bit longer so that when our government boots her out, every illegal alien will hear in a loud and clear message that during post 9-11, you can’t just come into the U.S. by simply walking across the border; faking a Social Security number; and then hoping that no one notices you.

Rodolfo

26. Midwest Gringa (21) ~ Tuesday, Oct 10 2006 | 21:48H:

Now I'm not from a big city or anything, and I don't usually have a strong opinion about this, but for me, it's a pretty simple system we live in. The United States of America has laws, Mexico has laws, heck, everywhere has laws. Why are the laws there? To protect people and the society they serve. Ms. Arellano has completely disregarded the laws that separate the LEGAL immigrants from the ILLEGAL aliens. I understand that waiting isn't exactly fun, imagine how all the people feel waiting to get into our country, and watch her cut to the front of the line like it's no one's business, then she gets mad when she is caught. Did anyone go to public school? Tell me you didn't get peeved if someone cut in front of you in the lunch line on chicken nugget day? Now blow that up about 100 times and you have what Ms. Arellano did to the others in line. I respect that she wants a good life for herself and her son, who wouldn't? But what she did was WRONG, and that's the principle of the thing, don't do things that are "wrong", simple as that. They teach us that as little kids, what's right and what's wrong. If you want to get a job, you apply, if you want to go to college, you apply, if you want to get a credit card or loan, you apply. When moving to an entirely different culture, don't you think it make sense that you have to apply? Sometimes you wait for that job, or that acceptance letter for what seems like forever. If millions of other people are willing to take the time and hard work to apply, why should she be any different? But hey, that's just me.

-K

27. contessa ~ Sunday, Oct 15 2006 | 19:16H:

Most mainstream Americans of Hispanic descent OPPOSE illegal immigration and the antics of illegal aliens like Elvira who, armed with an arrogant, false sense of entitlement, demand benefits and privileges of citizenship that they are in now way entitled to receive. We, like most Americans expect everyone to play by the rules. No exceptions. Elvira is the poster child for explaining why we need ICE to start enforcing the laws ASAP, and building that FENCE asap!

28. Maria ~ Wednesday, Oct 18 2006 | 13:22H:

Elvira is a human being and like any human being just wants the best for her family. If Bush wants to protect the U.S. from terrorism he should start by securing Canada's border since that is where all the 9/11 terrorist came from.

29. CONTESSA ~ Sunday, Oct 29 2006 | 19:25H:

ELVIRA and her "handlers" the so-called "preacher" Slim Coleman and his self-proclaimed anarchist wife, Emma Lozano all need to be in jail. Saulito should be turned over to the Dept. of Children Services,what this poor excuse for a mother and her opportunist, publicity-seeking handlers are doing to that kid is nothing short of abuse/neglect. Sin Verguenzas, la misma porqueria.

30. Gus calabrese ~ Wednesday, Nov 01 2006 | 13:42H:

I can't believe i hear all this racist nonsense comments in this website.. PBS is an educational network to terah, not to insult.

well..they just put an article about that poor women named Elvira Arellano. Her only mistake was to improve her life and the life of his kid. For all those ignorants racist arrogants, she couldn't apply for a Visa becuasde she's illiterate ,poor and is from a region in Mexico that there isn't no US consulate. 2, she work with afake social security becuase there was no other way to help put food on the table. Third..she is not a criminal or a terrorist like some fools are writing here.

She's an example of how greedy corporate america{ bush family, republicans; sorry seisenbrenner who owns business that emplyy or slaved illegal immigrants]is sucking the energy of this poor fellas, and at their backs, call them terrorist and criminals.

for me...in legal terms..well her only mistake was to work with a forge social security..but she never used it to get house loans, a car, or do an identity theft crime..she just used to work, pay taxes{ that's what uncle sam likes]..i think that the Bush administration they are doing a white collar crime with elvira and many undocumented immigrants: not giving them tax refunds at the end of the year like they do with the legal immigrants and citizens.

they just get rid of them by sending them back. What about not give them their tax refund money they have contribute? for me that's criminal..

And to all those punks ignorants racist in this blog, let me tell you that if she was a criminal and a fugitive..she will do a lot of scams instead of work lawfully..

you people should need to go back to school and tell bush to teach you more about your origins

Elvira..keep fighting and dont let those foolish opinions here intimidate you

i know you will stay here..and those racist will regret it

31. John ~ Wednesday, Nov 15 2006 | 14:45H:

This is absurd, this women Elvira Arellano broke American law, if we allow her to stay just because she had sex and a baby was born in the U.S. think of how many more will follow the same trend. America will be overwhelmed by these low skilled people, who will want things for free. Just look at what they have all ask for durring their so called marches, they want medi-care, monetary support and anything else they can get for nothing. They steal social security numbers, and has anyone looked at the news especially in Milwaukee, WI? Who is responsible for all yes all the public park shooting that go on, illegals thats who so why should we let her stay, her son will probably just turn out to be another inmate when he gets older. The government needs to deport all illegals and let them try to get in legally, and if she is not educated enough to fill out the documents, well do what the rest of us do, go get an education back in her rightful country, Mexico. America is not here for a breeding ground, has she not heard of birth control? you can get it for free for christ sake. Oh and nice shirt she was wearing in the picture in the paper that stated who would Jesus deport, well since Jesus was not a government official he would have had no right to deport anyone plain and simple. Jesus was only a preacher and sermonizer and nothing more. Second did Jesus condone breaking the law? No he did not he even gave his life to adhere to the laws of the state, he did not fight it. So if it is Gods will for her to be American than would one not do as they are supposed to and trust God to see them through, for you can not have it both ways. She should give her self up not only to allow Gods will to be done but also to set an example for her son.

32. diana ~ Thursday, Nov 16 2006 | 01:54H:

So i guess terrorists are only smart enough to cross the U.S.-Mexico border and thats why we need to "protect" it from illegals because most Mexicans are terrorists! Seriously, this is ridiculous, I agree that we have to protect our country from terrorist but not from hard working immigrants..and if the government is so interrested in protecting this country they should start building a wall with the Canadian border,right?

33. katy ~ Friday, Nov 17 2006 | 15:20H:

So now we are saying that people can break our laws as long as they are "hard-working." I can rob a bank, commit fraud or murder someone as long as I can prove I am hard-working?

34. AZNative ~ Friday, Nov 17 2006 | 15:52H:

#18 Paul.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but your statistics and "Evidence" are flawed. They are based on what if's and maybe's.

They say that they the illegal immigrant contributes to the programs like Medicare, Social Security, and Unemployment. Well, if using a fake/stolen ID, they do pay into medicare and social security, but not into Unemployment. Unemployment is paid out of state taxes, and when the large majroty of illegals claim Married with 9 children on their W-4 forms (When they get the job) there is $0.00 taken out of their check in federal and state taxes because with all of the dependants, they would get it all back at the end of the year. The study, ASSUMES that all illegals pay these taxes, but the large majority do not. And it doesn't take into account the many Illegals that are working under the table.

The study actually says, "Hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants go out of their way to file annual federal and state income tax returns". How did they get this information? They ask illegals and the illegals tell them the truth? If they have a stolen ID, there is no way of knowing if the person is illegal, or it is a second job of the actual owner of the ID. So this study trusted a person commiting the crime of Identity theft to tell them the truth about if they file taxes on their stolen ID or not.

The study you cited also said, "Yet undocumented immigrants are barred from almost all government benefits, including food stamps, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, Medicaid, federal housing programs..."

Well, until this last election, any illegal that had an american child qualified for EVERY STATE PROGRAM to care for the child. And this case of Elvira was a prime example. Because Elvira had an American Born child, the state will give her items like AFDC (Aid for Families with Dependent Children), which is cash assistance, Food stamps, Section 8 Housing, DES Daycare so mom can go to school and have a babysitter. And in the DES Office, they have signs in english and spanish saying, "We do not have the authority to contact Immigrations and Customs Enforcement" because they do not want a child to go hungry because mom is scared. In other words, the study is flawed.

Most of the positive contributions that the study says are given by illegals are not actually turned over by illegals. Illegals are criminals, plain and simple. And Elvira commited a crime. How about all the other people in jail that have families and children, but are having to stay away in jail. Why should Elvira get any special treatment? She already got 3 stays of her deportation so that the Illinois Medical Program could pay for her son's medical bills and doctors visits because he has ADHD. They said because of his condition, she couldn't leave him and let her stay 3 more years. But now, when it is time to go, she sends this 7yo kid, (Remember she couldn't leave because he needed her care) to Mexico. Sends him to a foreign country to plea her case.

She was first in the U.S. in 1997, She had her son in 1999, and she was finally arrested at the Chicago Airport in 2002, and in that time, did she attempt to learn english? Did she attempt to become AMerican? Remember that Reading and Speaking English is a requirement to become a citizen. Don't believe me? Look it up. She didn't attempt to assimilate, she did the opposite. She joined a group fighting for special treatment of criminals because they have a child.

Eveyone should take a look at this so-called mother. She is teaching her son that it is OK to break the law, as long as you benefit from it.

By the way, who was paying for her livelyhood the last 5 years since she was arrested? Did she get another job, or did she live off the state like most every other Illegal does?

35. J.Almendariz ~ Friday, Nov 17 2006 | 19:20H:

Are we a nation of laws? Or are we not?

Certain people believe that they are above the law…that they have the right to ignore our laws when it becomes convenient for them? They pick and choose those laws that benefit them and ignore the ones that don’t. They have no problem with obtaining—free education, free healthcare which was paid for through hard-earned taxpayer monies.

They justify their actions under the guise of need. Everything is prefaced by “me”, “what I need”, “what I want”, “what is good for me.” “Everyone owes me a living.”

Well, my parents came here legally. They waited their turn. They pay their taxes and my dad has an American flag flying in his backyard.

We are sick and tired of hearing from law breakers who demand their rights--AND want to be placed at the head of the line. These people do not pay into the social system that they are currently bankrupting. Even the illegals that do pay some social security taxes-that amount does not even come close to offsetting the cost of their social services to LEGAL AMERICAN TAXPAYERS.

Finally, I am sick and tired of so-called religious organizations that break the law as well. One of the best things that our founding fathers did…was separate church from state. Thereby avoiding the abuses that occurred in Europe and elsewhere.

This woman is a lawbreaker…SHE IS NOT AN ACTIVIST. We don’t need her here. She will not be a benefit to the US. Her personal ethics and morality are suspect. The church she belongs to is also suspect.

I hope that you will run some articles about the cost of illegals to the American Taxpayer. Rice University estimates that cost to be $11,000 per year per American. These people are putting my children into debt.

I hope that you will run some articles about the disastrous effects of the Senate bill S.2611 and the Hutchison-Pence Bill. You should read them. I have. My parents worked hard and long to attain the “American Dream.” Nobody gave them a free ride.

These ill-conceived bills benefit only BIG BUSINESS, LABOR UNIONS, and RELIGION at the cost of our middle class. If implemented they will allow vast numbers of low-skilled workers (60-100 million) into the country. There will be downward pressure on salaries & benefits so that number of poor will increase. Currently the middle class in the US is decreasing as well.

Oddly enough, hispanics who now live in the US now will be forced to compete with all these new millions and it is estimated that their standard of living will go downward as a result of the Senate bills.

J.Almendariz

36. Craig the egg ~ Friday, Dec 15 2006 | 19:54H:

From 1960 to 1970 Mexicans had more babies than any other country in the world. 8.3 per woman. Look at the poverty that created. Now they come here and for La Raza or Atzlan or La Familia or the church they continue to breed like rabbits. That is a race bound to fail where ever they go. I work with 5 Mexican women who all were once illegal, now legal. They all have four kids. All but two have no fathers. And all are subsidized to the hilt with my tax dollars because they make minimum wage. It makes me sick. It's like a force of nature we can't control. An evil force.

37. bandito ~ Thursday, Feb 15 2007 | 15:56H:

do not mistake sympathy with the law. sure people has a hard time assimilating to a new country but that does not mean you should break the law. Crossing the border, social security fraud, misusing the 14th amendment, and refusing deportation orders. When you want to go or stay in another you should follow the law. I just hate it when someone take advantage of our judicial system.

38. All ears ~ Thursday, Feb 15 2007 | 22:12H:

Ok so every illegal is here to do everyone of you wrong. Well i have a question for you and i want true answers. What should i do if i were your daughter (and I don't want to hear if you were my daughter you wouldn't be with him) I am a U.S. born citizen, both of my parents are born US citizen. My 1 year old daughter is also a US citizen, but my husband is not. I met him 6 months after he came here illegal. 6 months after we started dating i told him if he really wanted to be with me and one day have a family i wanted him to get his papers. I love my husband with all my heart and if he was ever deported I would pack up and move to mexico to be with him, i want my family together. I agree coming to the US illegal was wrong and if we could change it we would, BUT we CAN'T. Now for 3 years we have handed out money to lawyer after lawyer, I have even called INS myself and asked what we could do for my husband to get his papers. BUT nobody seems to be able to tell us anything. Me and my husband aren't even planning on having anymore kids til we figure out how to get his papers, Always being worried about deportation is not how i want my family to live. My point is That yes it wrong but everyone wants to put this women down for being here and not getting her papers, how is she going to get them? it's not that simple. my husband SPEAKS english and is working on reading it. he is married to a citizen, his daughter is a citizen, he has PAIED state and federal TAXES since he came here, and NOT with somebody else's social either. he has a special number given by the IRS that can only be used to file taxes. Not only has he not ever had a tax refund and has to pay more at the end of the year, he also paied almost $6,000 in Social Sercity alone in the past two years. And we're now getting ready to pay out some more(That's with me and our daughter on his taxes)The bad thing is because he's not a citizen he'll never see that money again and if something happened to him my daughter will never see that money. So don't talk to me about people taking money, some of them ARE paying out, and uncle sam is going to get his. The only mistake my husband made was coming here illegal, and because of that everyone feels they have the right to point. So point away but if you want to deport my husband with everyone else where's all the tax money he put in to goverment funded programs. We are still trying to get his papers and will keep trying to fix his one mistake. I don't feel every illegal should just "get" papers but why not make a program to give the ones who have paid taxes and are learning to speak english a way to correct their mistake, and not try to do the impossible and send half of the largest growning population " back were they came from". It's just another cost to the anger filled citizens to the US and what are the chances that with a group of people this large EVERYONE will be deported?
So tell me after reading my story and what I think if I was your daughter would you want me to pack up and take your grandchild to mexico to live or would you want to find another way to right this wrong?

39. Nica ~ Friday, Feb 23 2007 | 17:48H:

15. Leslie: 1. you say we cannot separate families? What about families that have been separated because a parent commited a crime and had to serve time? This is the same thing, Elvira has committed several crimes: entering the country illegaly more than once, using fraudulent documents to work, and not showing up for her court hearing. I doubt that the courts would take any sympathy on my family if I was arrested for trespassing and fraud and then did not show up for my court date, they’d throw my in jail in a New York minute, just one of the many benefits I can enjoy for being a U.S. citizen.

2. You have a 12 year old son in Chile and you’re still here???? What the hell is wrong with you? You are the epitomy of shelfishness, you want to stay here to enjoy the benefits of living in the U.S. while your child grows up without a mother? You ruthless bitch, how dare you even give an opinion here.

28. Maria: Elvira is a human being and wants the best for her family, while that is true, it doesn’t give her the right to break the law, which is what she did. And if the U.S. wants to secure only the border that sides with Mexico then they are well within their rights and there’s good reason for it, most illegal immigration is conducted alongside the mexico U.S. border.

28. Gus: Elvira’s only mistake was not to improve her life and the life of the kid. She has made many mistakes. She did not come here to improve the life of the kid, he wasn’t even born when she crossed the border illegaly. And since when is it racist and arrogant to want our laws to be upheld? Does the fact that someone is illireratte excuse them from obeying the law? Elvira broke the law and THAT, you ignoramus, makes her a CRIMINAL.

40. Nica ~ Friday, Feb 23 2007 | 17:54H:

#38. All Ears: I hope for your sake he doesn't do like 80% of the illegals do, marry you for the papers and as soon as he has them "Adios Amiga".

41. Jishory ~ Thursday, Apr 05 2007 | 21:54H:

All Ears: why were you foolish enough to have a child with a guy thats breaking the law? They should take your kid away and lock you up too for aiding a criminal! If your husband is paying taxes, GREAT! I am too! And im tired of paying for these criminals. More Americans were killed last year at the hands of illegal aliens then Americans died in Iraq, and I know one of them! All illegals deserve the same thing, DEPORTATION!

42. nora ~ Friday, May 18 2007 | 19:20H:

Elvira whatIdon't understand why she is still there,why she is not been arrested and send back rightaway now result that with this f...... inmigration reform she is going to be rewarded for braking the law, please somebody do something,I hate to see her ugly face in TV like some kind of hero authorities please send her and her bastard bratt back where they belong. DEPORT HER NOWWWWWW!!!!!!

43. CJ ~ Friday, Aug 10 2007 | 16:17H:

COME ON PEOPLE THE ONLY THING SHE IS TRYING TO DO IS LIVE THE AMERICAN DREAM...THAT ISNT A CRIME ITZ A GOAL...I CANNOT BELIVE THE IGNORANCE OF THESE PEOPLE...YOU CAN NOT HAVE AN OPINION ON SOMTHING YOU DID NOT EXPERIENCE YOURSELF...I BET IF ANYONE HERE WAS IN THE SAME PERDICTMENT THEY WOULD NOT BE LEAVING ALL THESE MENINGLESS COMMENTS...THEY SOUND MORE LIKE.........................

44. AMY ~ Friday, Aug 10 2007 | 23:24H:

All I want to say is that all these people should fight in their own Country.They should go fight with their President he gets richer and richer and they have to suffer to cross these borders to eat and live. And then he has the effrontery to fight with our Government regarding these Walls on our Borders.Another thing I want to point out
The so called Activists are not helping these people they are just drowning them in hate of course they have nothing to loose they are Legal here in the US.They are just using these poor people telling them what to do like all these Marches its just making the US more pissed off.These people come from a land where there is ignorance they do what they are told to thinking its the right thing to do.And the Activists are causing these Raids. I use to work for the government and every single Undocumented would tell me " Well I was told to say that or to put that" I feel bad for all these childen that are being brought on these world just to be used to saty in the US.These people have to understand that it dont matter if you have 20thousand children in this country you are still and Ilegal Alien and should start fighting for your rights in the Country that you were born in.You are breaking the law entering Ilegally is Breaking the Law and like everyone has to pay when we breake the law. I am sorry but they should as well.

45. NIVEA ~ Sunday, Aug 12 2007 | 01:48H:

Elvira,

Is fighting for immigrants the same as blacks rights movement where done in slavery days. This is history in the making. Elvira keep up your head and avoid all the negative slurs ignorant people have. This country is diverse anyways and many americans are selfish and do not even know their history. History tells us we are all immigrants in one shape or another but many people as so behind in their stupidity and ignorance they can even read a book on history. Tell you what I'm proud of been a hispanic and I'm a true American that has immigrant background and Im still human. I know 3 different languages where many americans are stuck on one. How smart is that? Anyways arent we all humans and we come this country to make the American Dream also the immigrants are the one keeping our lands because many including myself do not want to do the job they do. Do you?

Freedom of Speech.........Puerto Rican female?
Do you know where Puerto Rico stands? Many americans do know even know that puerto rico is part of the United States? How ignorant they are?


Puerto Rican female,
FEMINIST

46. Salomé ~ Thursday, Aug 16 2007 | 20:43H:

She on the news again. Her lack of respect to our nation, our laws is outrageous. She needs to be deported and sent back to Mexico where she should be asking mexican politicians to take care of their people, to educate them and create jobs instead of crossing the borders illegally and then claiming "rights" and demanding to be allowed to stay. She has broken our laws and has become a disgrace for us, law abiding inmigrants who are honest, work hard and contribute positively with this nation. We - the laws are the not the ones that separate people, people and their decisions is what will cause them to be separated. She knew she did not have a right to stay in the US why would she get pregnant? where is the father?. She is not more than a disgrace to us hispanic women. Thanks so much Elvira... just keep in mind that you don't care for anybody else than yourself, not even your kid. You are a disgrace.

47. Red,White & Blue ~ Sunday, Aug 19 2007 | 18:53H:

How dare this country allow this illegal person stand up and call for unrest and demonstrations! Ms E. Arellano is an abomination to the laws of the United States of American. She should be dropped kicked immediately out of this country!

48. johannah bruggeman ~ Sunday, Aug 19 2007 | 19:25H:

This woman is making an ass out of Chertoff and Bush. She is making a mockery of our laws; she is advocating anarchy. A judge has ordered her deported so deport her. If she is a goodd mother she will take her son with her. Where is his father and why isn't he helping to raise this waif?

49. Tracy ~ Monday, Aug 20 2007 | 00:49H:

Why has she not pursued legal status since 1997? I will give her break as an American citizen and forget that she came here illegally but she need to get off of her so called "rebel" ass and quit wasting tax payers money and sending the WRONG message to millions of other illegal aliens in my country.

50. Salome ~ Monday, Aug 20 2007 | 02:52H:

I think the reason why she did not pursue legal status is because she was never eligible for it to begin with. As a naturalized American citizen, I know that the process is long and may turn difficult when you do not know how to communicate and comply with all the requirements. She came illegally, got deported in 1997 and came back illegally again.

She was using somebody else's SSN to work and for that she was arrested and making her guilty of a felony, therefone not eligible for any kind of legalization of her immigration status. So, wrong decision after wrong decision is what have brought this woman to the place where she is now.

51. Mike ~ Monday, Aug 20 2007 | 10:34H:

Elvira Arellano is an ILLEGAL immigrant. Her son was born in the US while she was an ILLEGAL immigrant. She chose to be in the US illegally when she gave birth. She chose to ILLEGALLY use someone else's Social Security number so she could work in the US ILLEGALLY. Elvira Arellano created this mess, not the US.

52. joanna ~ Monday, Aug 20 2007 | 13:12H:

damn cant believe this country built of hard working illegal immigrants can be so damn ignorant and yes i do stand and compare rosa parks to elvira because she did what many of us would of might not had the balls to do. At least Elvira had the balls to stand up and try to change whats going on and yea this country might think that they can silence her voice by deporting her huh but guess what buddies yup again ignorants IT WON'T NOW MANY MORE WILL SPEAK UP AND STAND UP FOR THEIR RIGHTS wait lets see back in history the real people who can actually say "Get out of our country!" "Let me see your visa or working permit" would be the native americans who were murdered and women raped because of the selfishness or IGNORANCE of ummm let me see you people who now want to deport any other immigrants get educated and dont be an ignorant

53. pepitoeljusticiero ~ Monday, Aug 20 2007 | 18:28H:

ke la fusilen....ni deportacion.....ni libertad....al paredon los dos....no queremos mas chicanos en tierras de dios.....las tierras de dios son para superdotados....como yo....!

54. Nica Gee ~ Monday, Aug 20 2007 | 18:37H:

This woman is no saint or Rosa Parks or anyone to be admired in my book. She continually broke the law and illegally entered the country even after being deported.

Then she had the unmitigated gall to use someone else's social security number just so she could work here illegally. Then she pops out a kid so she can have some claim to staying here. She's a criminal who knows how to look like an innocent lamb.

For the record, I'm of mixed race and from immigrants who came here LEGALLY. By the way, please tell us what Mexico does with illegal aliens who cross the country and dare to linger instead of going on to the US?

We don't want criminals like this woman here. If you want to live here, do it the right way. She blew it and she can rot in Mexico for all I care.

55. jethro ~ Monday, Aug 20 2007 | 20:18H:

1 down (deported) 11,999,999 more to go.

56. Paul ~ Monday, Aug 20 2007 | 23:24H:

she is a convicted felon, and should be denied citizenship. Immigration offered her the opportunity to take her son with her, and she left him with the church. She should have no rights in this country because she is a repeated offender, and obtained employment illegally. This has nothing to do with her nationality, and comments that compare her to Rosa Parks are racist in nature, as they belittle Ms. Parks and the entire African American race.

57. joanna ~ Tuesday, Aug 21 2007 | 00:31H:

jethro ur a dumb azz ignorant

58. dana martinez ~ Tuesday, Aug 21 2007 | 01:08H:

I am very sad for Ms. Arellano's son Saul. It is unforunate that his mother cared so little for him that she has chosen to abandon him in the U.S. rather than take him to her own country. This is a woman who has broken U.S. border laws twice. The first time she was deported then she defied the U.S. again and returned and chose to have a baby here in hopes that we would not deport her because her baby is a U.S citizen. Then when ordered to leave again she thumbs her nose at America. To avoid this in the future the goverment needs to form a law stating that a child holds the same citizenship as the parent. And as for Ms. Arellano's comments on our "broken laws". The law is not broken. The illegals are breaking the law. The u.s needs to enfore our existing laws. My ancestors waited in line why shouldn't they?

59. cheryl ~ Tuesday, Aug 21 2007 | 05:46H:

Both my husband and I are naturalized citizens. We went through a lot of red tape to become citizens.
My husband speaks 2 languages , I speak 5. Our children speak 3. I worked with many Mexicans and
I know for a fact many DO NOT CARE TO LEARN ENGLISH!! furthermore I was shocked beyond words when 2 different 3rd generation Mexican Americans told me they do not feel they are Americans, they feel like they are Mexican. Why are we taxpayers pay and pay to support all the illegal aliens' 9 to 10 children.Due to proximity to USA, many Mexicans do not feel any allegiance to the country that feeds them. In many countries in Europe the children of illegal aliens are NOT CITIZENS.IN MEXICO they are not citizens either. Citizens of the good old USA, stand up for your rights, DEFEND YOUR COUNTRY FROM INVASION.VOTE OUT all the unpatriotic people who want to shove radical views down our throat.If we vote correctly,there is talk that we might someday have what Europe has CHANGE THE LAW SO THAT CHILDREN OF ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE ILLEGAL ALIENS!!
I love the Spanish language , I went to a lot of trouble to learn the language because I was tired of hearing Spanish everywhere and not knowing what was said around me. Many of my colleagues resent that they cannot communicate with their patients and when making a phone call, sometimes we must listen to Spanish 1st and press #2( we are no longer option 1 in many businesses.We vacation in Mexico all the time, our daughters were engaged to Mexican Americans.
So as long as any immigrant is legal, I have no problem with that.
Elvira is an arrogant woman, she has the audacity to defy and provoke the authorities so we finally got rid of her. It's about time we develop some backbone.

60. Michelle1 ~ Tuesday, Aug 21 2007 | 18:35H:

Framing the immigration debate in terms of the Civil Rights Movement is an ineffective strategy. This issue is broader in scope than that language allows.

The issue here is GLOBALISM and FREE TRADE (NAFTA). But nobody talks about it in those terms.

On TV, celebrities decry free trade's effects on countries around the world. I saw Chris Martin of Coldplay on Charlie Rose saying that free trade agreements were putting Haitian farmers out of business. Charlie Rose said it was awful.

Well, that's exactly what is happening in Mexico, in our own backyard. Millions of farmers can no longer support themselves because NAFTA has flooded the market with cheap (and inferior) agricultural goods. And THAT is what causes them to immigrate.

But nobody seems to make the connection between our own economic policies and the massive, unprecedented levels of immigration from Mexico and other parts of Latin America, except to cast Mexican immigrants as "cheap labor." In other words to dehumanize them.

The immigrant activists themselves seem to think the only solution is to let all of Mexico move to the US, but that's not a realistic solution.

Pressure needs to be put on our own government and the Mexican government to create a way for Mexicans to support themselves in ther own country. Nobody ever discusses NAFTA or the pending free trade agreements with the rest of Latin America.

The debate needs to be taken to a higher level. So far, it's just immigrants saying they have a right to be here because they are poor and anti-immigration activists saying go home, it's not our problem if you're poor. A "debate" like that appeals to the lowest common denominator and doesn't solve anything.

Nobody seems to think it's a tragedy if Mexicans are living in poverty or dying in droves along the border. The sentiment is just "that's the way they are."

The media tells us that poverty needs to be eradicated in other parts of the world, and tells us that we need to "save" these people, but for some reason we're supposed to ignore the poverty in our own country and on our own continent. Charity begins at HOME.

Americans of Mexican descent need to stop distancing themselves from Mexican immigrants and start using their voting power to demand changes in NAFTA and other free trade agreements in the hemishpere.

61. Michelle ~ Tuesday, Aug 21 2007 | 18:51H:

To avoid this in the future the goverment needs to form a law stating that a child holds the same citizenship as the parent.
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This is an incredibly uneducated comment. We do not inherit the legal status of our parents. Do you have any idea why people fought and died in the American Revolution? We don't believe in inherited titles, or in inheriting the legal stautus of our parents. Americans are born with a fresh slate, not legal baggage they had nothing to do with. THAT is what makes our country great.

If you want a free, first world society, you do not restrict freedom. You expand it.

Get a clue lady. This issue is much bigger than a woman who came here illegally to clean planes. You're an idiot. There is nothing I hate more than Hispanics who dump on illegal immigrants just to distance themselves and gain favor with white people. If you want to change the way Hispancis are perceived, then you have to RAISE UP everyone, not bash those who are poor and without economic power or civil rights. Ms. Martinez, you are not only ignorant of our legal heritage, but an embarassment to yourself.

If they strip American citizenship from one group of people they will find ways to strip it from other Americans too.

62. MIchelle ~ Tuesday, Aug 21 2007 | 19:05H:

This has nothing to do with her nationality, and comments that compare her to Rosa Parks are racist in nature, as they belittle Ms. Parks and the entire African American race.
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They are not racist and they don't belittle anyone. I do not favor those comparisons, though, only because they do not do justice to the scope of the immigration issue. This issue is much more broad. It's global and they need to place it in that context.

But just so you know, Parks was also breaking the law when she refused to give up her seat on the bus. The blacks who sat at white only lunch counters were also breaking the law, as were those who tried to vote when they couldn't pay the poll tax or pass the written test required at the time. The blacks who had sex with non-blacks were also breaking the laws of the time.

How do you think the Civil Rights Movement began? With people breaking laws they believed were racist. A lawbreaker isn't any less of a lawbreaker if he is an American citizen.

Nobody from the Civil Rights Movement is morally superior to Elvira Arellano.

63. Carmen ~ Tuesday, Aug 21 2007 | 19:17H:

I truly do not feel bad for Elvira. She was in this country TWICE ILLEGALLY. How can she expect sympathy when she broke the laws of this Country.
On the other hand, I do feel bad for her son that He will be here without his Mother.

64. Tony ~ Wednesday, Aug 22 2007 | 01:18H:

Well, she was deported in 1997 but came back a few days later. She learned that if she has a child, she would receive sympathy support for being an illegal alien.

65. bz_myname ~ Thursday, Aug 23 2007 | 17:11H:

I have read all of the comments on this page, and the person who disturbs me the most is Joanna. Where the hell do you get off rampaging about hard working "illegal immigrants"!? That in and of itself is ignorant, because if they're illegal they shouldnt be working! If they are working, they are breaking one or more laws besides the one they broke when they came here ILLEGALLY! Nobody asked them to come here and work hard, they could have done that in Mexico. You Miss are a complete dumbass, and you should really think before you make your opinions visible to sensible, law abiding citizens of the United States. I personally think that when people cross into our country illegally they should be jailed, and made to serve whatever time they are given in selected areas of the state harvesting produce. Once their time is served they should be deported, and prohibited from ever entering the U.S. again. All we'd pay for is 3 hots and a cot. I cant wait for other illegal immigrants to rise up like Elvira did. Because God willing, they'll all be rounded up and deported just like she was. EXCELLENT JOB ICE!!!

66. joe ~ Thursday, Aug 23 2007 | 18:01H:

have a nice trip elvira. im so sorry mexico is a dump and ran by thugs. if you would put half the effort in mexico as you did here maby it would be a place you would want to live.
P.S.next time try comming through the front door.

67. americancitizen ~ Thursday, Aug 23 2007 | 21:28H:

Nice English, Joe! Looks like wherever you went to school was a dump as well, judging from your third-world writing skills.

68. Pedro (koreatown) ~ Saturday, Aug 25 2007 | 12:47H:

My Fellow Americans, Wake Up and Smell the La Raza and Azteca movement taking over and exploiting our LAWS! One Day those movement will have a suicidal FALL from this country! I hope these LIBERal Latino Politians are Watching!

69. Ben ~ Monday, Aug 27 2007 | 20:35H:

I believe she should be returned to Mexico, her Son is a US citizen. He should be returned to his mother in Mexico and when he becomes 18 he may return to the US. One thing that those in favor forget is that it is FRAUD using a Social Security Number and identity that is not yours. If you or I would have done this we would surely be in Jail.

70. vaquero ~ Tuesday, Aug 28 2007 | 12:29H:

Clever misuse of the word immigrant as if legal immigration is the same thing as illegal immigration, is obviously nothing but a code used by the Open Border/anarchist and primarily Anti-USA Left. The truth is every country in the world must have secure borders and most countries severely restrict both legal & illegal immigration in order to provide security and protect their CITIZENS.
Imagine a World with completely open borders.
IMO this WORLD would be total lawlessness, no private property, rule by tyranny and similar to the world of medival times. That is what a world without a strong & secure USA will become. Imagine a post USA world, it would make the current tyranny & squalor of countries such as Mexico, Venezula, Cuba, Iran, Syria, etc., etc, actualy look inviting. Stop and ask yourself why the above countries don't seem to have a swarm of people trying to get across their borders, matter of fact they evidently must export their own citizens because they have a failed government, based on a failed ideological system...as long as the USA allows these countries to export their citizens nothing will change within. Illegal immigration must cease, these illegals must go HOME to find their American Dream and all we owe any of them is Good Luck, now go!!!!

71. NADIA ~ Friday, Dec 14 2007 | 14:38H:

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT ALL OF YOU'S ARE HEARTLESS. I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW MANY OF YOU'S FEEL THAT WAY. I COULD JUST IMAGINE HOW YOUR FAMILY BROUGHT YOU'S UP. I CAN TELL THE LOVE YOU'S WHILE GROWING UP. MEXICO IS A VERY POOR COUNTRY HARDLY ANYONE CAN SURVIVE THERE. LET SAY THE US GETS ATTACKED AGAIN AND EVERYTHING IS RUINED AND THE GOVERMENT AND EVERYTHING IS LEFT IN POVERTY.. WERE WOULD WE GO WHAT WILL HAPPEN HOW WILL WE SURVIVE? IT'S NOT FAIR THAT US AMERICANS CAN GO INTO MEXICO AND ALL THESE OTHER COUNTRIES WITH NO PROBLEM HOWEVER THEY CANT COME HERE THATS SUCKS.. ALL OF YOU'S ARE GOING TO PAY ONE DAY FOR FEELING THAT WAY AND BEING SO COLD HEARTED.. AND I HOPE ALL OF YOU'S WILL BURN IN HELL

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